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    Hopkins is not a cheater

    The man is just in phenomenal shape and unlike most boxers he takes care of his body post fights and never get's lazy.

    Just because he continues to do amazing things in the ring does not mean that he is on Ped's or Donkey Blood it's based on his fighting style and his dedication to his craft.

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      Originally posted by BxFanViento View Post
      The man is just in phenomenal shape and unlike most boxers he takes care of his body post fights and never get's lazy.

      Just because he continues to do amazing things in the ring does not mean that he is on Ped's or Donkey Blood it's based on his fighting style and his dedication to his craft.
      yeah, lets not forget also to add to what you just said, but hopkins is known for walking around no more than 10-15 lbs above weight in between fights, he has been a fitness FREAK for his entire career.

      there are only a few athletes that stay in his kind of shape. there are few people in the professional ranks that even come close to hopkins fitness level, the guy is a specimen..........

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        Originally posted by deuce_drop View Post
        you only take the tests if you have no leverage........


        and average people would take a test to get a big payday, but to a guy that has his own leverage and already has money, and self confidence doesn't have subject himself to such demands in hope to earn money.

        there are more avenues to make cash for a guy like manny, floyd and drug tests have no leverage over him, manny is a draw, he's a money maker, succumbing to demands based off of slander doesn't hold any water.......

        i would never give in to my opponent and his demands......... not unless it was beaten out of me......... and i think any REAL MAN would do the same.
        yeah i knew someone would come with this! 50 mil is 50 mil bro no matter how u look at it these dudes got bills and family pac is also giving up large chunks of his cash to arum! we are living in a time where having millions of dollars is also concidered broke and cost of living is sky high... hell the rothschilds own the world... do u see them stopping? and since u say that about a real man was floyd giving in when he agreed to the glove size and the 10mil per pound over demand? it does not matter why they wanted the testing or if it was based off a false assumption it was a demand that one fighter wanted in order for the fight to be made both fighters have the right to make demands and both of them excercised the right

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          Originally posted by BxFanViento View Post
          The man is just in phenomenal shape and unlike most boxers he takes care of his body post fights and never get's lazy.

          Just because he continues to do amazing things in the ring does not mean that he is on Ped's or Donkey Blood it's based on his fighting style and his dedication to his craft.
          he dont eat pork either lol!!!!!

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            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
            Your first post said that contracts are not needed, now your saying the can have a new contract, yet i'm the moron. Sure, they could shake hands and say to each other they will take the tests, but that doesn't hold water and can't be backed up.
            i was talking about fight contracts. standard fight contracts does not cover drug testing because that's is covered under commission rules. so i stand by what i said, you don't need (fight) contract to demand additional drug testing. it's all up to the fighters. all you dummies are saying is that additional drug testing is dependent in fight contracts is ******. but you really can't expect anything better for a ***** like you.

            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
            I'm not disagreeing with Pascal's request, just the motives and timing. I question B-Hop's reaction to the request, because he should have seen right through it for what it was; hype & mind games, something you cannot see.
            bull****...what do you know about his motives? maybe he's just playing games but so what? aren't you a supporter of better drug testing in boxing? here's a guy asking for it...aren't you suppose to be supporting him even just for the aspect of drug testing? where's the love for ost? just because it's not in the fight contract all of a sudden ost is not important? gtfo.

            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
            Basically what i'm saying is Pascal should have mentioned this during the negotaitions without bring it up once the fight had been signed, had B-Hop still been against it then it would have been suspect, but an ambush at a press conference, emotions will fly regardless of wether he agrees with it or not.

            Funny, you still refuse to respond to the second half of my post, but like i said i know what you'd say anyway.

            But i'm done, i don't waste my time on the biased and ignorant.
            lmao...now it's me who is biased?
            again, if ost is all about fight contracts then y'all are fake from the very beginning. fanboys will always be fanboys. and what's that about the 2nd half of your post again? i usually miss out the irrelevant ones.

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              Originally posted by jtiger777 View Post
              yeah i knew someone would come with this! 50 mil is 50 mil bro no matter how u look at it these dudes got bills and family pac is also giving up large chunks of his cash to arum! we are living in a time where having millions of dollars is also concidered broke and cost of living is sky high... hell the rothschilds own the world... do u see them stopping? and since u say that about a real man was floyd giving in when he agreed to the glove size and the 10mil per pound over demand? it does not matter why they wanted the testing or if it was based off a false assumption it was a demand that one fighter wanted in order for the fight to be made both fighters have the right to make demands and both of them excercised the right
              fair enough, although it is apples and oranges when compared to us little people vs rich vs ultra mega rich.........

              but the rothschild quote is SOLID and mucho props for that argument, glad you know what is up in the world.

              10 mil per pound was because mayweather had no problem with paying a fine while never trying to make weight, so to hold him to it, they went after what he covets the most, his money....

              but like the rothschilds, people who have the leverage are not going to let someone who doesn't have leverage push them around. we see it all the time, thats why they get away with what they get away with, and if they can't they either take people out or have the laws changed, apples and oranges again, but like i said, which holds true in all walks of life, those without leverage will never be able to use or force someone to do something they want who has more leverage than them.........

              good argument............... much respect jtiger777

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                Originally posted by deuce_drop View Post
                fair enough, although it is apples and oranges when compared to us little people vs rich vs ultra mega rich.........

                but the rothschild quote is SOLID and mucho props for that argument, glad you know what is up in the world.

                10 mil per pound was because mayweather had no problem with paying a fine while never trying to make weight, so to hold him to it, they went after what he covets the most, his money....

                but like the rothschilds, people who have the leverage are not going to let someone who doesn't have leverage push them around. we see it all the time, thats why they get away with what they get away with, and if they can't they either take people out or have the laws changed, apples and oranges again, but like i said, which holds true in all walks of life, those without leverage will never be able to use or force someone to do something they want who has more leverage than them.........

                good argument............... much respect jtiger777
                The fact that u pacq fans use this logic to justify pacq going above the commission is an awesome way to show how desperate u r to defend a possible/known cheater. Its BS!

                Jus becuz u clowns keep repeating the same shyt does not make it true!

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                  Originally posted by deuce_drop View Post
                  just a comment, but mosley would sell his soul to land a fight that he wants, so him taking tests really doesn't say anything because mosley doesn't negotiate, he just signs on the dotted line, whether it's in his benefit or not, whether it's detriment or not............. just sayin.
                  NO, Mosley is just built that way because he is a fighter. Dude was found guilty of taking an illegal, banned substance and he STILL took the tests to fight Mayweather because Floyd is the best and he wanted to get paid on top of it. Typical outlook from a PROFESSIONAL fighter/athlete wanting to fight the best right? Why would a blood test keep him away from doing his thing in the ring against the best? Mosley who aleady got caught up, took the tests and a clean fighter for all of his career couldn't? Come on bruh.

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                    Originally posted by brick wall View Post
                    lol moron, do you know that contracts doesn't have to be in writing? do you also know that they can have another contract outside of the first one just to cover the additional drug testing? all they need is meeting of the minds or an agreement. if pascal want ost and bhop is agreeable to it then they can have another contract for that. the only difference between pascal and floyd is timing but it doesn't mean pascal's demand is less important...not for me but for a floyd apologist like you. at least you should've showed some support to pascal about this issue. but it's the opposite, you are more inclined to bash him. it's all about double standards and a sever case of fanboyism.
                    Yo man. Seriously! Stop talking about **** you don't know about because it makes you look more foolio than you already are. The whole thing Pascal did was for hype and controversy. When people handle or negotitate contracts they sit down and go over everything beforehand so it wont be any last minute request like you are mentioning in this post. Bernard doesn't have to do anything because the ink is already on paper. If anything Pascal looks more like a roider than Hopkins.

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                      Originally posted by deuce_drop View Post
                      uuumm, that is what i was saying........

                      mosley would do anything to get a fight that he wants???? mosley doesnt negotiate, he just signs.......... richardson has spoke about this many times and said that is mosleys Achilles heel in negotiations.............

                      opponent's demand " ost testing, my mother, sister, and uncle as judges, my grandfather as ref, 80/20 on the purse and you mosley have to wear 20 oz gloves................"

                      mosley retort " already signed bro, like before you were done demanding, gotta go, gotta start training, see you in the ring"
                      So would you if you could make millions of dollars to fight. Fact of the matter is that, Mosley took the tests, came up clean and people still trying to throw him under the bus while Manny has refused it. Why should Mosley continue to get ridiculed and Pac get excuses? If anything, Mosley proved he was clean and that is what it is all about. Don't try to make the excuse that he would sell his soul to the devil because Shane is a fighter and he gets paid to do it.

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