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    I see Martinez as the gate holder @ 160 similar to what Hagler was, the difference is Martinez can make 154. Why go up to 168 where he would lose to those naturally much bigger guys when he can still make 154? Ward, Bute, etc would be too much for Sergio. Floyd is probably the only one that has a chance the way it looks right now. Martinez deserves a mega pay day too.

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      The Racket Squad: Sergio and The Floyd Void

      For those who had the common sense to save 50 bucks and take advantage of HBO's best double header this year, the pleasures of the ring were dramatic.
      A friend recorded the Cotto fest for me and the card was another Arum sideshow with both main event pugilists reciting, no mas.
      Yuri Foreman could not contain the savage instincts of Mr. Wolak who finally had a night he could treasure because it could lead to true fiscal treasures.
      Cotto, due to the unconventional antics displayed within Mayorgas final fling, had a tougher time then he should have.
      The card presented nothing terribly unexpected

      The live HBO broadcast showered fans of the sport with two performances that dictate what gloved events should be.
      There were four fighters presented, each of whom gave the very best of themselves for much less money then the fading Miguel earned.
      Sergio Martinez showed us why he is indeed the second best boxer in the pro ranks today.
      HBO still includes Floyd as number two, but that is a political, ridiculous notion.
      It is just as insulting as Max Kellerman calling Alvarez 'a prodigy' last week.
      HBO lost Manny and heaven fobide they insult their other PPV money maker.
      Mayweather just might decide to return to his trade one day. The network
      wants 'Money' to know they still love him even though he disregards the sport and fans that made him wealthy and treats most human beings like crap.
      It's simply sewer politics.
      Martinez is an amazing athlete at 36. He is the King, second only to Manny.
      Fighters fight.

      The opening act was not a disappointment either.
      The highly regarded Andy Lee, who was defeated by Brian Vera in a collision of wills, salvaged his entire career when opponent Craig McGowen simply ran out of gas.
      Had McGowan maintained his stamina, the result would have been very different.
      Freddie Roach can teach you many things, but some fighters just cannot refuel during a contest. Craig burned out and Andy, much to his credit, stayed in the game and had the remaining fortitude to earn a big win.

      So now we move on to the April 9th joyride that Maidana will take Morales on.
      If the Cotto card proved one thing, it is that the heavy underdog will not change his colors because we simply want to believe.

      Regarding future fare, based on the degree of difficulty Cotto had with Ricardo, I forsee Margarito repeating his victory.
      After Pacquiao, each man was reduced to a portion of who they were.
      But that is what happens when you venture into the deepest of waters.
      Williams, Pavlik, Cotto and Margaritio know this better then most who engage in this brutal racket known as the sweet science.
      Nuff said.

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        Manny has been very exciting and impressive but who has Manny fought to become #1? He has fought big names coming off big losses but no one recently at the top of their game. Floyd fought Shane when he was #1@47/#3 P4P and Marquez when he was #2 P4P, not on their downslides. Manny is well calculated hype!!!! There is no reason he didn't fight Campbell@135, Bradley@140 or Mosley when he was top dawg@147 and now Martinez@154. GTFOHWTBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
          Like I said if Floyd goes on record and turns Martinez down Martinez would be #1 P4P in my book. Manny has already blatantly turned Martinez down. How you gonna fight for a title at a weight then turn the former champion down at that same weight when it's a mega fight? Floyd has to fight Martinez to be #1 in my book or be cool with being #2. Manny is #4 in my book cause he's also been ducking a 3rd Marquez fight. If he was smart he would fight Marquez @ 140 and get out of the welter-wt division cause long as he's there he can fight Martinez @ 54 just like he fought Margarito there.
          Dirty N!gga a$$ floyd shouldnt be mentioned p4p list, he should kicked out for frauding vaseline buttride since 2006, i put ugly N!gga in a top 40. Fraudster will never fight Sergio cus that n!gga mind is full of ploys & porch n!gga haymon will help him for another duck. If martinez wants p4p best, he should call out Pirog/sturm which at least they're true MW not some ****load like Dzinzurek who fought most of Serbian monkey holes in EU without proven anything at 160 in US soil. Whats wrong with sergio?? not man enought to call Pirog/sturm or how about some greatness at 168 Never happen right !!! if he wants pac he better come down to 150 & its about time the big boys needs to come down. After all he should fight pac at his best, not ***ing 154 where he step in at 170lbs??? he can forget N!gger floyd til he'l get ko by someone else.

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            Originally posted by beatnutts View Post
            Look, Martinez really is too big for Manny and Mayweather but to be honest, he's too damn good also so he would win against both and it would have more to do with his skill than anything else.

            Another thing, Mayweather and Manny look like hypocrites and you fans that are defending them re hypocrites also. Do some research because you'll find out that when Mayweather fought Oscar at 154, and when Pac fought Margarito at 154, both opponents were close to 170, the same weight Martinez was last night. I think Oscar was at exactly 170 and Margarito weighed 165. Also, Martinez weighing 170 was his highest and he only did that to put on extra lbs for moving up because he's always been a 154 fighter. If you're honest with yourselves then you would admit Sergio is the new p4p king because he's beaten guys far better than the guys Pac and Mayweather has won against and thats a fact.
            I agree. Oscar weighed 160 and Floyd 148 tho. Funny how Pac weighed the same but needed a catchweight. I guess people saying that Martinez is too big for Pac, Floyd and Cotto just means to me that he is just too good. Floyd never said Martinez was too big for him but Pac did. Cotto I think would fight him but Arum won't let that happen. Martinez is number one in my book. Pac had a busy 2010 as well. Even out sold Martinez in every fight but still lost fighter of the year. That says it all. Martinez is fighting the best and Pac is not. Manny never beat Floyd for the #1 spot so he is always in debate in the P4P rankings because some outlets still consider Floyd the #1 fighter. Why shouldn't they? Floyd did beat the top guy in the WW division (Mosely), when Manny turned the fight down prior. Manny said he don't need Floyd but he does if he wants to be officially #1. Pac don't want to fight Martinez and Floyd is not fighting while Martinez is fighting the best and winning spectacularly. Martinez should be bumped up to 1. I know feelings will be hurt but it is, what it is.

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              Originally posted by Iceta Lives View Post
              I think there are posters on here who are ridiculous on both sides of the spectrum. On one hand, you got people saying Martinez should move up to 168 when he started out his career at Welterweight and there are no top fighters at 168 who fight for HBO. They are all with Showtime. So that's an issue.

              And then you got these posters who are being overly nuthuggish to Martinez and not taking him to task for calling out these smaller guys like Pac, Floyd, and Cotto when there are still forces to be reckoned with in the division like Pirog and Golovkin. And then you got Fernando Guerrero and Kirkland on the verge of making their bones.

              Now as far as Cotto looking like a ho for not fighting Martinez, it would hold some weight if Cotto decided to go after an easy or vacant belt like he has done his whole career in the weight class Sergio is fighting in. But Pac, Floyd, and Cotto don't owe Martinez anything just like Roy said last night.

              Martinez needs to fight guys who are in his own weight division. This is what Hopkins still gets bashed for when it is blown out of proportion on top of it. Berto fights scrubs regardless of how big they are, and he don't even belong in the same conversation as Martinez or Hopkins for that matter.
              Martinez fought a taller Williams and moved up and beat Pavlik. Dude don't have to call out smaller guys. Mayweather, Pac and Cotto all fought and held/hold titles at 154. So did Sergio and he got stripped for Pac to get his BS, 8th catchweight title. Funny how Roy Jones is talking crap when he moved up to Heavyweight to get a title. I think the BS Sergio is too big movement is just people trying to make excuses instead of saying Sergio would most likely smash them dudes. It's getting harder for people to front on Sergio Martinez.

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                MArtinez is too scared of Cotto after Cotto's dominant performance last night, He will get KO by Cotto in 6 rounds!! WAR COTTO!!!!!!!!!

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                  Originally posted by el20cuatro View Post
                  MArtinez is too scared of Cotto after Cotto's dominant performance last night, He will get KO by Cotto in 6 rounds!! WAR COTTO!!!!!!!!!
                  Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Joke of the day.

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                    At least Cotto would take the fight. Arum wouldn't let him. Pac on the other hand will go nowhere near Sergio. The same active Pac who just won his fraudulent "8th" title in a weight division Sergio's fought in.

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                      Originally posted by americanbot View Post
                      martinez don't call out small cotto....


                      move up tp your actual weight class & fight at 168 & we will then see how "great" u are.
                      His "weight class" is at 160, I suppose Martinez could do what Pacquiao does, handcuff one of the champions at super middleweight to a catchweight bout at 164 and count that as another weight category he's supposedly conquered. LOL!

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