Mayweather vs. Cotto post fight Thread -DON'T make new threads about the fight

[mathed]

Exactly what I was gonna say. You can't predict Floyd's rhythm. He doesn't throw 1-2's, he throws leads. Leads, especially fast ones like Floyd's don't come from a rhythm where as Cotto has predictable rhythm, he has a drop step in his jab that Floyd will be able to telegraph after a few rounds. Floyd could throw any of his punches from any position whether he's moving or not so it's tough to gauge that rhythym.

It is easy to see when Floyd is going to throw the right hand lead.....the other guy stands there in front of Floyd and Floyd stares at the guy, right in the eyes...when that moment takes more than a second, the right hand lead is coming. He does it like 90% of the time....that's why I never understand why guys try to out think him and give him distance, you don't have the speed to match him.

Floyd is a reaction fighter...he reacts to what you give him. You give him time and space, he will attack.

[tredh]

Floyd is not the most talented fighter to ever enter the ring, that is an insult to fighters of the past. Dude's career has been substantiated by hometown fights, convenient retirements, well-timed decisions to fight certain guys, and imposing detrimental circumstances on opponents.

Sugar Ray Leonard would spank Floyd, Robinson would retire him.

There will never be a way to really determine who was the most talented at anything. Having more talent or natural ability than someone doesn't mean you will beat the other person. PBF just might have more talent than Leonard and Robinson but I agree that he would lose to Leonard.

I am not one to hop on that Ray Robinson bandwagon. Robinson's best weight and prime was at 147 which they have no footage of. 160 it was said Robinson was past his prime and best days and not the fighter he was at 147. Seeing the little footage they have of Robinson at 160 I see the man has great skills and ability but I also was not impressed with what I saw. So if I can't see the best Robinson I will reserve judgement on him.

[Gino Ros]

There will never be a way to really determine who was the most talented at anything. Having more talent or natural ability than someone doesn't mean you will beat the other person. PBF just might have more talent than Leonard and Robinson but I agree that he would lose to Leonard.

The Mayweather-Leonard comparison doesn't make sense to me for this reason:

a 150-152 pound Leonard would have never competed at WW.

Floyd would be giving up considerable size to SRL in a fight.

I stood next to SRL in the lobby of the Grand Hyatt in Chicago. He was a big WW. By contrast, Floyd is smaller than Amir Khan and Erik Morales.

[~AK49~]

I think that people are going to be surprised with how easy he dispatches Cotto.

A few people, including me, would. On the same token, Alot of people would/are gonna be surprised at just how skilled and good of a fighter cotto is.

Mayweather has a better chance of losing to cotto than he does pacquiao imo. Just depends on what cotto shows up, and what his gameplan is, etc.

I dont see a flat out beating from mayweather come saturday. At worst, i see de la hoya part 2.

[The Big Dunn]

A few people, including me, would. On the same token, Alot of people would/are gonna be surprised at just how skilled and good of a fighter cotto is.

Mayweather has a better chance of losing to cotto than he does pacquiao imo. Just depends on what cotto shows up, and what his gameplan is, etc.

I dont see a flat out beating from mayweather come saturday. At worst, i see de la hoya part 2.

Interesting point. Very few people would agree that cotto has a better chance to beat floyd.

[tredh]

A few people, including me, would. On the same token, Alot of people would/are gonna be surprised at just how skilled and good of a fighter cotto is.

Mayweather has a better chance of losing to cotto than he does pacquiao imo. Just depends on what cotto shows up, and what his gameplan is, etc.

I dont see a flat out beating from mayweather come saturday. At worst, i see de la hoya part 2.

WTH!!?? De la Hoya won 3 rounds. You might want to think of a closer fight.

[Gino Ros]

A few people, including me, would. On the same token, Alot of people would/are gonna be surprised at just how skilled and good of a fighter cotto is.

Mayweather has a better chance of losing to cotto than he does pacquiao imo. Just depends on what cotto shows up, and what his gameplan is, etc.

I dont see a flat out beating from mayweather come saturday. At worst, i see de la hoya part 2.

I have to admit this:

I think there's an even-money chance that Cotto gets Gatti'd/Hattonized.

Which is to say, the second half of the fight could become a slower Cotto trying to land his heavy shot while Floyd is at just the right range and lands big shot after big shot and combo after combo while the audience watches in awe.

Is Cotto a very good fighter still pretty much on top of his game? Definitely. Are the disadvantages that Cotto brings into this fight such that they play right into Mayweather's best strengths? DEFINITELY!

This can happen:

[UrGonnaLooos]

With this notion, I can understand but he works at such a manic pace. How many boxers do you know to never damage their bodies? The thing I think that gets lost on Floyd through the hate and other things is that Floyd had the gift to be the best in his sport and never squandered it. Mike Tyson threw it away by being unfocused but he was a nutcase altogether. Roy Jones Jr. did when for years, he coasted on natural ability, he never had the technique to really fall back on. Many other sports as well. Vince Carter had everything in this arsenal to be the best, his passion or lackthereof is/was his downfall while Kobe Bryant gets up and is practicing his craft at five in the morning. Lest not forget who was organizing 2 in the morning work outs while his opponent was in bed sleeping. That person isn't Miguel Cotto, it was Floyd Mayweather. People lose sight of all of that and more.

All that hard work and dedication goes out the window after you take a left hook to the jaw.... U dig!

[~AK49~]

WTH!!?? De la Hoya won 3 rounds. You might want to think of a closer fight.

Point is, it was no where near a beating/dismantling. You say de la hoya only won three rounds, others disagree. Imo, cotto's competitive moments will be more painful to mayweather than oscars competitive moments were.

[~AK49~]

I have to admit this:

I think there's an even-money chance that Cotto gets Gatti'd/Hattonized.

Which is to say, the second half of the fight could become a slower Cotto trying to land his heavy shot while Floyd is at just the right range and lands big shot after big shot and combo after combo while the audience watches in awe.

Is Cotto a very good fighter still pretty much on top of his game? Definitely. Are the disadvantages that Cotto brings into this fight such that they play right into Mayweather's best strengths? DEFINITELY!

This can happen:

Sure, it could happen. Just as Floyd losing could happen

Cotto is 100 times the boxer gatti ever was. His timing is miles ahead, speed is better, he's bigger and stronger. Mayweather wont be destroying cotto like he destroyed gatti imo.