Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: I'll Challenge Pacquiao For His 154 Title

[WESS]

they wanna see manny lose so bad!!!

Hardly, I can easily go on YOUTUBE and watch Manny get KTFO over and over and over again if I wanted to. How many times can you do that about Floyd? (sorry to DESTROY your agenda).

You are clearly wrong as you where stating your OWN wants about Floyd. You as most everyone just want to see Floyd lose. lol

Myself, as a FAN of the sport just wants to see Pac fight a REAL threat.

If Pac can't make 154 (the weight he has a title at), that's HIS problem not anyone else's, its not your fault, its not my fault, its not Billy Joe Bob's fault and nor is it Martinez's fault. Just as it wasn't Pac's fault that De La Hoya couldn't make weight? Remember????? How could you forget this?

Word of the day: DOUBLE STANDARDS.

If Pac wants to weigh 145 pounds than so be it (hey he'll be fast right?). As long as he DOES NOT weigh OVER 154 it's fair game for HIS title he (pac) won from such a GREAT, SUPER WARRIOR that's a super threat king of the world with dominating KO power super human strength that was KING KONG in size compared to Pac. REMEMBER????????? Such a "great" win to get that 8th title at the 8th weight class...... Pac WON it.

Pac/Roach/ARUM, THEY WANTED that 8th world title that just so happens to be Martinez's "OLD" title. Sergio (rightfully) wants it back. Pac either takes the fight and weighs WHATEVER he wants just as long as its not OVER 154 and its legit for Pac's JMW title OR he "DUCKS" as he KNEW he "CHERRY PICKED Margarito and by ducking Martinez it validates him cherry picking, WEAK POS bums.

Pac can fight at what ever he wants (doesn't he do that anyway????) as long as its not OVER 154, now get over it because that is in the rules it WILL still be for the JMW title regardless of how many pounds under the divisional LIMIT.... or do you not agree with the commissions rules set forth like Mayweather AND PAC (who BOTH made demands NOT supported by the commission)?

[PAKYO]

Go Arum! Make the fight happen! I don't care who wins, the important thing is Pac will face Martinez unlike the fraud who always go on vacation when threats are abound.

It's the next best thing!

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anyone who thinks pac should fight for the middleweight title are deluded. People calling for that are crazy and just haters who wanna see him lose. Hed be 30 pounds lighter than his opponent on fight night and even if he won, his body would be so sore hed need a year off. Even martinez at 154 isnt going to happen , pac only weighed in at 144 for his 150 fight against margarito and on fight night was 17 pounds less than marga imagine the difference against martinez even at 154. He obviously won easily but the fight still took a toll on his body even though he didnt get hit allot. I for one wanna see him at his best for a couple more years and realistically he should be boxing at 140 and 147 , no higher. Mabye hes farewell fight he can try something like 154 v a guy like martinez for one last legacy crack , but in reality its getttin ridiculous the weights people are wantin to fight at and the size of the opponents they want him to fight and its ussauly coming from haters saying "he should fight a real champion like martinez at MW and well see how good he really is" and thats such bull****, why dont they call for martinez to fight a cruiserweight.

Your post is conveniently one-eyed, so you are obviously a pac-boy.

When you guys make posts like that, do you not realise that everyone can see that your viewpoint is unbalanced, so therefore your post has no credibility?

Maybe you didn't read the thread?

The offer from Sergio was to meet at 154. SMW, you know the division that Manny is currently representing.

So, stop trying to make out that the world is "picking" on Manny. Manny wants to call himself an 8-division champion, and if that is the case, then he should MAN UP and fight the best at JMW.

If you go running around trying to make "special" rules for Manny, his legacy will have as much credibility as your post.

If Manny is an 8-division titlist, then he needs to grow some balls and fight Sergio. If he is not an 8-division titlist, which is clearly fkn obvious, then why do I have to listen to some assshole from 60 minutes telling me that he is?

Your cruiserweight comparision is so over the top it does not even warrant a reply, but, you are aware that Sergio Martinez started as a welter, right?

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Give Pacman a break.. He just fought hard fight last Nov 13. Now you idiot people want him to fight again with much more bigger fighter. Pacman is the boss. If Martinez wants to fight, let him come to Pacman's terms and conditions.. That's the bottom line...

" Pacman is the boss "

*** off assshole, you whiney idiot.

Boxing has weight divisions, and the same rules APPLY TO EVERYONE !!

Manny has already admitted to me that he could not compete with a prime Cotto, and that he could not compete with a prime Margarito - which is a fkn joke for an 8-division titlist

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Hardly, I can easily go on YOUTUBE and watch Manny get KTFO over and over and over again if I wanted to. How many times can you do that about Floyd? (sorry to DESTROY your agenda).

You are clearly wrong as you where stating your OWN wants about Floyd. You as most everyone just want to see Floyd lose. lol

Myself, as a FAN of the sport just wants to see Pac fight a REAL threat.

If Pac can't make 154 (the weight he has a title at), that's HIS problem not anyone else's, its not your fault, its not my fault, its not Billy Joe Bob's fault and nor is it Martinez's fault. Just as it wasn't Pac's fault that De La Hoya couldn't make weight? Remember????? How could you forget this?

Word of the day: DOUBLE STANDARDS.

If Pac wants to weigh 145 pounds than so be it (hey he'll be fast right?). As long as he DOES NOT weigh OVER 154 it's fair game for HIS title he (pac) won from such a GREAT, SUPER WARRIOR that's a super threat king of the world with dominating KO power super human strength that was KING KONG in size compared to Pac. REMEMBER????????? Such a "great" win to get that 8th title at the 8th weight class...... Pac WON it.

Pac/Roach/ARUM, THEY WANTED that 8th world title that just so happens to be Martinez's "OLD" title. Sergio (rightfully) wants it back. Pac either takes the fight and weighs WHATEVER he wants just as long as its not OVER 154 and its legit for Pac's JMW title OR he "DUCKS" as he KNEW he "CHERRY PICKED Margarito and by ducking Martinez it validates him cherry picking, WEAK POS bums.

Pac can fight at what ever he wants (doesn't he do that anyway????) as long as its not OVER 154, now get over it because that is in the rules it WILL still be for the JMW title regardless of how many pounds under the divisional LIMIT.... or do you not agree with the commissions rules set forth like Mayweather AND PAC (who BOTH made demands NOT supported by the commission)?

Good accurate post WESS.....
..... but, don't waste your time with that iNDOLiFER idiot.

The post that you replied to is at least his 11th consecutive post that does not contain a single boxing comment or fact.

[PAKYO]

Good accurate post WESS.....
..... but, don't waste your time with that iNDOLiFER idiot.

The post that you replied to is at least his 11th consecutive post that does not contain a single boxing comment or fact.

Not entirely accurate.

Myself, as a FAN of the sport just wants to see Pac fight a REAL threat.

And that quote stands out he's not a real boxing fan even. Just a fanboy of another boxer who is being eclipsed by Pac.

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Not entirely accurate.

And that quote stands out he's not a real boxing fan even. Just a fanboy of another boxer who is being eclipsed by Pac.

I don't think so PAK.

He is clearly passionate about boxing, and he comments on a lot of things that do not involve Floyd or Manny.

The point is this.....
rather than conveniently label him, discredit his comments, if possible.

His comments were accurate.

This Top Rank Manny-circus is becoming a total joke, and don't try to tell me its not because I have been a fan of this sport for over 30 years and I was disgusted with what I saw on 60 minutes two nights ago.

I wish Manny's advisor's could see that, then again, most of them are not boxing people and I suppose they have their own agenda's as well.

[Lineal Champ]

LOL *****s telling Manny Pacquiao to "MANN UP!"



The fuccin funniest thing ive heard this year!

[crillz]

" Pacman is the boss "

*** off assshole, you whiney idiot.

Boxing has weight divisions, and the same rules APPLY TO EVERYONE !!

Manny has already admitted to me that he could not compete with a prime Cotto, and that he could not compete with a prime Margarito - which is a fkn joke for an 8-division titlist

I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I actually like you because when you talk Boxing it isn't no bullshit replies you go in depth and that's how I feel it should be but I was just reading threw the posts and I noticed you said what you said in the bold part, I was wondering what you meant by that? you're cool too so like I said it's not a call out kind of thing I'm just genuinely curious, do you know Manny personally?

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I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I actually like you because when you talk Boxing it isn't no bullshit replies you go in depth and that's how I feel it should be but I was just reading threw the posts and I noticed you said what you said in the bold part, I was wondering what you meant by that? you're cool too so like I said it's not a call out kind of thing I'm just genuinely curious, do you know Manny personally?

No

I do not know Manny personally. Pity, I would love to meet him.

I am just a normal boxing fan, I am no longer officially involved in the sport.

When I hear a public announcement, or read a public statement, I have the right to feel that it is directed toward me personally. I am after all a member of the public.

In a similar vein, when Manny insisted that the Cotto fight be held at 145, he admitted one-of-two things.....

He either.....

1.) could not compete with Cotto at Miguel's normal weight

or.....

2.) he tried to intentionally weight-drain Cotto to gain an unfair advantage

When I said "admitted to me" I meant that it was obvious, and undeniable.

The two reasons that I mentioned above are the only two possible reasons to insist upon a catch-weight.

When I stated earlier that Manny is not an 8-division titlist, I was not meaning that I think he is a genuine 7-division titlist either

But I am not Manny-bashing, I just wanted to address the point that made me so angry when watching that 60 minutes show.

I have been a huge fan of boxing for many many years, it is extremely frustrating to see history being re-written, and to see the integrity of the sport undermined by lies and hyperbole. The Legends that I used to idolise should not have their accomplishments diminished by that 60 minutes hype.