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how do you weight drain a 147 lber with a catchweight of 150 lbs?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      how do you weight drain a 147 lber with a catchweight of 150 lbs?

      please explain.
      easy. you just make him fight at 150 instead of 147.

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        #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Pretty easy. Wait till he hasn't fought in a year, has moved up and doesn't want to go that far back down and...presto.
        You hit the nail right on the head

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          #44
          You can't. If anything it will work to Marg's advantage since he'll have 3-4 less lbs he has to cut. He came into camp at 160, is already near the CW limit, and his trainer thinks he will rehydrate 12 lbs on the day of the fight.

          Honestly, I don't think Roach or Pac care about a CW, it's all Koncz (who wanted a CW for Clottey as well). If Pac fights again at 154, say against Cotto, it will be at the full limit. The usual suspects won't be able to complain about a CW or Pac fighting for a vacant championship so naturally they'll whine about how the fight already happened and Pac is fighting a shot fighter again, despite them claiming the only reason Miguel lost was because he was drained...

          And the World keeps on turning

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            #45
            Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN View Post
            Margarito said he couldn't make 147 so he moved to 154 and now you have the P4P best fighter in the world wanting him to fight at 149 when he allready made it clear that he moved up in weight because he couldn't make that weight anymore. Reminds me of when Morales was praticly beging Paquiao and his team to make that last fight at 135 because he couldn't make the weight anymore and Freddy said hell no! because that was going to be an advantage for morales but yet now Paquiao is fighting for a title at 154.
            he said he couldnt make 147..the fights at 149, whats the problem ?

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              #46
              Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut View Post
              yeah that is true...but it is not a 154 title, it is no suck thing as a 154 title, it is a Light Middleweight Title and Light Middleweight weight requirement is 147-154, so technically fighting at 150 is not really breaking any rules nor does it mean they are not following or bending the rules

              What I don't like is how catchweight is being used especially by Freddie Roach, he has admitted in interviews in the past about "Draining Opponents" and about how Oscar Drained, to mean that cheapen your accomplishments, you want to beat a guy when he is AT HIS BEST, not when he is DRAINED and weak, it feels like catchweights is being abused to COLLECT CHAMPIONSHIPS for CERTAIN FIGHTERS!
              I think it has something to do with MANNY STARTING HIS CAREER AT 106.....i mean im no Einstein or anything, dont see Froach doing this with anyother of his fighters, but then again MANNY DID START AT 106 and for him to fight a guy like Tony who has fought at 154, I mean C'MON.............smh. Oscar drained himself in preparation..that was ALL Oscar's fault.... they waited to rehydrate Oscar and Oscar CHOSE MANY.so was Manny suppose to go from 135 to 154 to fight Oscar? lmao...

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                #47
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Agreed, Mack. However, he could have easily come back at 149, 150, 152, whatever. Wasn't like something was on the line against Garcia. But he came back at 154. And lobbied for 151. Do I think the weight will make a big difference? Ehh, not really. Not as much as the fact that he's looked to have slowed quite a bit.
                weight won't be an issue with Margo. the problem most have with the catchweight is that the "TITLE BELT" on the line is a jr middleweight belt and the limit for jr middle is 154. i think for a belt either fighter should be able to weigh in anywhere between 147.5 and 154. Margo has no upperhand, but thats not really the issue. the issue is that this is a papertitle that will add to Pac's legacy, pretty similar to the title he earned @135. no one expects Pac to fight the best @ 154 for a title but Arum and co. have found a way to give Manny another belt in another weight class, even though he isn't against a legit contender at the weight. say what you want, Manny deserves it, but without a victory over FLoyd, i don't know what it all really means.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by goldenglove2 View Post
                  easy. you just make him fight at 150 instead of 147.
                  WTF! How is that weight draining if he's fighting on a heavier weight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by goldenglove2 View Post
                    he said he couldnt make 147..the fights at 149, whats the problem ?
                    actually the fight is at 150... Margarito will have no problems.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
                      WTF! How is that weight draining if he's fighting on a heavier weight.
                      exactley dude.


                      lol..


                      that was a joke.

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