how do you weight drain a 147 lber with a catchweight of 150 lbs?

[Pin Galarga]

The point that can be driven all day long without ever sinking in is:
It's inmoral to win a Jr Middleweight title at 149 or 150/
If you are not a middleweight, then be happy with the titles you have and please. Beat at least one welterweight champion at 147 before you start counting those as a legit title won.
Pacquiao fans will have to deal with people who like me, think about him as a PAPER CHAMPION at welter and jr mid.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

THE FANS are the biggest B!tches when it comes to a catchweight fight, the fact that Margarito has fought at 147-154 over the years and was just recently a Welterweight Champion I don't think 150 is all that bad, same for Williams vs Martinez II, both of these guys been fighting at 154-160 over the years, Martinez was just the 154 Champion so fighting at 157 should not be a problem

BUT I do have a serious problem with Catchweight when a fighter is ask to fight at a weight he hasn't fought at in YEARS, that is when Catchweight becomes an advantage for a fighter, who gives a *** about you being smaller, if you can't fight a fighter at a weight THEY ARE COMFORTABLE AT then you shouldn't move up

[Bushbaby]

The point that can be driven all day long without ever sinking in is:
It's inmoral to win a Jr Middleweight title at 149 or 150/
If you are not a middleweight, then be happy with the titles you have and please. Beat at least one welterweight champion at 147 before you start counting those as a legit title won.
Pacquiao fans will have to deal with people who like me, think about him as a PAPER CHAMPION at welter and jr mid.

Co-sign here!!Pacman fighting at 150 for the jr middleweight title against Margarito is just garbage!!The pfp king,that's who Manny is,Margarito is not a champ at 154 & neither is Pacma!!The pfp king should have no problem fighting a top 5 jr middle,not some cheater!!

[Bushbaby]

THE FANS are the biggest B!tches when it comes to a catchweight fight, the fact that Margarito has fought at 147-154 over the years and was just recently a Welterweight Champion I don't think 150 is all that bad, same for Williams vs Martinez II, both of these guys been fighting at 154-160 over the years, Martinez was just the 154 Champion so fighting at 157 should not be a problem

BUT I do have a serious problem with Catchweight when a fighter is ask to fight at a weight he hasn't fought at in YEARS, that is when Catchweight becomes an advantage for a fighter, who gives a *** about you being smaller, if you can't fight a fighter at a weight THEY ARE COMFORTABLE AT then you shouldn't move up

It is not the same in the case of Martinez & the Punisher,Martinez is actually a champ,they are fighting for his title!!Neither Margarito or Pacman are champs at 154 but their fighting at a catchweight for a title!!

[Derranged]

People were arguing that Margarito can no longer make 147 comfortably and that he was weight drained against Mosley. Thats not to say I agree.

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

Margarito said he couldn't make 147 so he moved to 154 and now you have the P4P best fighter in the world wanting him to fight at 149 when he allready made it clear that he moved up in weight because he couldn't make that weight anymore. Reminds me of when Morales was praticly beging Paquiao and his team to make that last fight at 135 because he couldn't make the weight anymore and Freddy said hell no! because that was going to be an advantage for morales but yet now Paquiao is fighting for a title at 154.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

It is not the same in the case of Martinez & the Punisher,Martinez is actually a champ,they are fighting for his title!!Neither Margarito or Pacman are champs at 154 but their fighting at a catchweight for a title!!

yeah that is true...but it is not a 154 title, it is no suck thing as a 154 title, it is a Light Middleweight Title and Light Middleweight weight requirement is 147-154, so technically fighting at 150 is not really breaking any rules nor does it mean they are not following or bending the rules

What I don't like is how catchweight is being used especially by Freddie Roach, he has admitted in interviews in the past about "Draining Opponents" and about how Oscar Drained, to mean that cheapen your accomplishments, you want to beat a guy when he is AT HIS BEST, not when he is DRAINED and weak, it feels like catchweights is being abused to COLLECT CHAMPIONSHIPS for CERTAIN FIGHTERS!

[KnockUTheFukOut]

Margarito said he couldn't make 147 so he moved to 154 and now you have the P4P best fighter in the world wanting him to fight at 149 when he allready made it clear that he moved up in weight because he couldn't make that weight anymore. Reminds me of when Morales was praticly beging Paquiao and his team to make that last fight at 135 because he couldn't make the weight anymore and Freddy said hell no! because that was going to be an advantage for morales but yet now Paquiao is fighting for a title at 154.

That is when I have a problem with the catchweight!!! when fighters use it not to make the fight fair, but using it to their advantage

[Vasyl’s dad]

so why not let margo weigh 154??

Who cares?

Mannys fighting Tony when Floyd never did or wanted to.

Tonys fighting Manny when Floyd never did or wanted to.


Its killing you guys inside and you have to resort to worrying about menial **** to try and discredit these guys taking each other on when Floyd passed on both of them.

[Vasyl’s dad]

The point that can be driven all day long without ever sinking in is:
It's inmoral to win a Jr Middleweight title at 149 or 150/
If you are not a middleweight, then be happy with the titles you have and please. Beat at least one welterweight champion at 147 before you start counting those as a legit title won.
Pacquiao fans will have to deal with people who like me, think about him as a PAPER CHAMPION at welter and jr mid.

Its been almost a year already. Quit your crying and deal with it.