Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao; Drug Testing No Longer an Issue

[Khalid X]

Pacquiao vs. Chavez Jr.


That fight is so damn obvious to me.

Not next but it is a fight that will happen. Why shouldn't it? If Chavez continues to build his resume up, along with his fan base....then that is a fight that makes sense a year or so down the road.

[ThePrince]

Naw.

Baldi was the Ring and WBC Number 1.

Hatton was ranked as well at 147.

Mosley was ranked Number 2 and was the P4P Number 3.

So, Margarito being ranked the #1 contender at LMW by both the WBC and WBA is not valid though right?

Baldomir is/was a C level fighter on his best day, he was tough as ****, that was it.

Ricky Hatton never did anything of note at 147, he was indestructible at 140 where he was like 40 something-0... keyword being was

And you Floyd stans tried to take away from Manny's demolition of Cotto by saying Miguel was shot. Well, Cotto moved up in weight to take on a much bigger, mobile, slick undefeated champion and knocked him out immediately after the Pacquiao fight. Mosley on the other hand went on to take on a reality tv fighter and was gifted a draw, looked everyday of his 39 years and gassed early (just like he did against Floyd, despite almost KOing him in 2 rounds).

So is it safe to say Shane Mosley at 38-39 is past his prime, old, and shot judging by his recent performances? I mean if Cotto winning a championship via KO against an undefeated champion signifies him being shot at 29 years old what does that say about Mosley and Floyd's careful cherry-picking?

Looking forward to hearing the spin on this one...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Not next but it is a fight that will happen. Why shouldn't it? If Chavez continues to build his resume up, along with his fan base....then that is a fight that makes sense a year or so down the road.

Thats the thing. I actually thought he looked very good vs Duddy. However not this year or next will be ready for Pacquiao. I think Bob will capitalize in Chavez's name too early like how GBP is trying to do with Khan vs. Mayweather.

[crillz]

he quoted pac and schaeffer moron. his article is not about his personal opinion, it's about what he heard from 2 people from opposite sides of the negotiations. if marley was lying about schaeffer, it can be easily disprove by schaeffer. it is not just about the credibility of the writer but the possible reactions from the people he quoted. if his article is about his personal views then by all means you can question his credibility.
if marley was also lying about what pac said, then he's doing pac a disfavor. he's putting him in a situation where pac can no longer say NO to ost. he wrote an internet article where everybody can read. and if pac will say no to ost in the future people can always slap marley's article in his face. marley is a veteran writer, he knows what are the possible consequences of his articles to himself and to other people involved and it doesn't matter whether he is perceived to be biased or not. but of course you don't realize that because you're a ****** *****.

okay finally someone who isn't just hurling 1 line stinkers my way..

anyway..

what did Schaefer actually say though? what was his actual quote? he didn't actually say anything that would require disproving but he also didn't come out and say "Manny accepted full testing in the negotiations" the way the article is trying to make it seem..

it's written carefully to create the image that Manny said he would take the test and Floyd's side didn't have anything to say when IN TRUTH Golden Boy was signed on as further promotional help, they had power and all but Floyd in the end was the one with the say so it really doesn't matter what Schaefer says now because Golden Boy and Mayweather's tie ended once negotiations for a fight ended, and even more so Schaefer didn't even say anything that "co-signed" Manny's comments all he did was not get into it he simply said "If Pacquiao said that then I'm sure he wouldn't lie about it" which isn't actually co-signing the way this idiot is trying to get you to believe

to co-sign something is to vouch for him, it's not an expression of you giving your opinion on a matter but actually putting up your credibility on the line. all Richard said was he doesn't think Manny would lie he didn't actually come out and say "he's not lying" he said that he's sure that if Manny said that to him that he isn't lying which isn't the same thing that Michael Moron is trying to insinuate. be fair and actually understand my perspective, clear your preferences and actually read this post with an open and equal mind

a lie and a stretching of the truth is not the same thing, at least in a court of law, so your whole "he knows what are the possible consequences of his articles to himself and to other people involved" is rendered useless, consequences occur when you tell lies, I said he COULD BE lying I didn't say he was actually lying. he was probably told these things but the perception of the article that HE created was that Manny agreed and when he questioned Schaefer that Schaefer co-signed it and you can read in bold English that that is simply just not true

Schafer didn't actually co-sign anything he simply said he doesn't think Manny Pacquiao is a liar but he didn't co-sign what Manny actually said and that's the biggest disclaimer with me here, how can you say Drug Testing is no longer an issue and that both sides have said so when the Mayweather's work for themselves and they have yet to say anything? also how can you say that when what Richard Schaefer told you didn't actually co-sign anything? where does he find the solid ground to say that BOTH sides have said testing is not an issue when that is not what Schaefer nor the Mayweathers even said?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

So, Margarito being ranked the #1 contender at LMW by both the WBC and WBA is not valid though right?

First off.

Margarito mysteriously got that ranking thanks to Suliman as far as the WBC is concerned.

Baldomir is/was a C level fighter on his best day, he was tough as ****, that was it.

Ok. Whats your point? He was still the Number 1 WW.

Ricky Hatton never did anything of note at 147, he was indestructible at 140 where he was like 40 something-0... keyword being was

I have no idea what was funny about this part but ok kid. He beat Collazo in a close fight and won an ABC belt at 147. He also moved up to challenge Floyd. Nothing wrong with that.

And you Floyd stans tried to take away from Manny's demolition of Cotto by saying Miguel was shot. Well, Cotto moved up in weight to take on a much bigger, mobile, slick undefeated champion and knocked him out immediately after the Pacquiao fight.

Clearly Cotto showed and proved he had a little left when he knocked out a limpy Foreman. But let's not act as if Foreman was this monster. Foreman was only being picked by some because people thought Cotto was finished.[/QUOTE]

What bothers me about that fight is the weight. You're right he moved up immediately after that fight and has shown no signs of ever fighting at 147 again. So him being at 145 was a factor IMO.

Mosley on the other hand went on to take on a reality tv fighter and was gifted a draw, looked everyday of his 39 years and gassed early (just like he did against Floyd, despite almost KOing him in 2 rounds).

So is it safe to say Shane Mosley at 38-39 is past his prime, old, and shot judging by his recent performances? I mean if Cotto winning a championship via KO against an undefeated champion signifies him being shot at 29 years old what does that say about Mosley and Floyd's careful cherry-picking?

Looking forward to hearing the spin on this one...

Are you forgetting how many flush power punches Floyd rattled Shane's head with? You dont think Floyd beating his ass played a part in how bad he looked as of late at all? He just got the hell beat out of him then moved up and looked fat and dry and lost to Mora imo. Shane has NEVER looked like a beast at 154 Pounds. Nice try.

Dude "undefeated champion"? Say his name. It was Yuri Freakin Foreman. Did he whoop his ass? Yes. But lets not blow Yuri out of porportion.

[LMFAO]

This post is worthy of its own thread.

I really really believe that fight is next. Chavez is even taking a weak touch rather than Cotto. Preserving that record.

Yeah man,

that fight makes too much sense and DOLLARS to NOT happen next. Jr's a protected bum fighter with an undefeated record. Easy fight for Manny.

Aside from that. There's NO WAY they are letting cheato win. NO friggin way. Anyone who thinks Cheato at this point is winning this fight between Manny and Pac ISN'T honest Arum. NO WAY he let's P4P #21 Cheato, whom he "helped" get back in for the biggest payday of the biggest fight of his life NOT going to OWE Arum something back in return.

Not with all the money they make from the Pac carnival act, when they could throw him next with possibly 42 and 0 JCC Jr to make BIG money. I believe that fight will probably do MORE than any fight Pac has been in because they'll promote the HELL out of JCC Jr's "42-0 undefeated" record and Manny's 8 titles, as well as the fact Julio's father beat Floyd's trainer uncle Roger in the past. They'll use that fight as leverage against Floyd in future negotiations.

I really feel right after or close to the Margs fight with Manny Floyd will come out and announce they winner of P Will and Sergio will face him to trump the Pac Cheato sham first.

Then Top Rank will counter with Pac vs JCC Jr.

[IMDAZED]

Yeah man,

that fight makes too much sense and DOLLARS to NOT happen next. Jr's a protected bum fighter with an undefeated record. Easy fight for Manny.

Aside from that. There's NO WAY they are letting cheato win. NO friggin way. Anyone who thinks Cheato at this point is winning this fight between Manny and Pac ISN'T honest Arum. NO WAY he let's P4P #21 Cheato, whom he "helped" get back in for the biggest payday of the biggest fight of his life NOT going to OWE Arum something back in return.

Not with all the money they make from the Pac carnival act, when they could throw him next with possibly 42 and 0 JCC Jr to make BIG money. I believe that fight will probably do MORE than any fight Pac has been in because they'll promote the HELL out of JCC Jr's "42-0 undefeated" record and Manny's 8 titles, as well as the fact Julio's father beat Floyd's trainer uncle Roger in the past. They'll use that fight as leverage against Floyd in future negotiations.

I really feel right after or close to the Margs fight with Manny Floyd will come out and announce they winner of P Will and Sergio will face him to trump the Pac Cheato sham first.

Then Top Rank will counter with Pac vs JCC Jr.

Chavez Jr or Cotto is NEXT. No if, ands, or but's about it.

[jrosales13]

Yeah man,

that fight makes too much sense and DOLLARS to NOT happen next. Jr's a protected bum fighter with an undefeated record. Easy fight for Manny.

Aside from that. There's NO WAY they are letting cheato win. NO friggin way. Anyone who thinks Cheato at this point is winning this fight between Manny and Pac ISN'T honest Arum. NO WAY he let's P4P #21 Cheato, whom he "helped" get back in for the biggest payday of the biggest fight of his life NOT going to OWE Arum something back in return.

Not with all the money they make from the Pac carnival act, when they could throw him next with possibly 42 and 0 JCC Jr to make BIG money. I believe that fight will probably do MORE than any fight Pac has been in because they'll promote the HELL out of JCC Jr's "42-0 undefeated" record and Manny's 8 titles, as well as the fact Julio's father beat Floyd's trainer uncle Roger in the past. They'll use that fight as leverage against Floyd in future negotiations.

I really feel right after or close to the Margs fight with Manny Floyd will come out and announce they winner of P Will and Sergio will face him to trump the Pac Cheato sham first.

Then Top Rank will counter with Pac vs JCC Jr.

You keep saying Margarito is P4P #21

Is that your list or where are you that from?

[rommel357]

Typical of *****s, even when Schaefer himself have confirmed that Manny already agreed to the full OST, they still continue to lick Floyd's tip and defend him.

But he didn't agree to a full OST the first time, so he's still a cheater and he ducked Floyd.


- *****s

[Blubba]

But drug testing is.

Just like weights are overseen. But catchweights are NOT.

nice try haha but poor effort n u know it.

commissions govern all the weight classes and anything inbetween (catchweights) is over scene by them

the commissions own drug testin is overseen by the commission, get it now? and so are catchweight yes?

ost is not, its overseen by usada. simple enuff for u.