Learn To Love it?Floyd Mayweather Jr. is Still No. 1

[BillyBoxing]

what debate? you guys are having a debate? really? where?

What is the debate? That Floyd beat a smaller fighter in JMM?

Okay, Yes those four pounds really did a number on JMM

Are we good now?

4 pounds.
And don't forget the ****ty 10 pounds that JMM added on his body in a heartbreat and made him slower.
Marquez was fightin at 130 last year,this fight is circus,catchweight garbage,once again an overated win(like the Hatton and Judah wins).

Marquez just cashed out at the end of his career.

[switchsouthpaw]

This dude can't be serious with the above statement. Now all of a sudden marquez is past his prime?? All of a sudden the previous no. 2 lb-for-lb fighter (on most pundits' lists) is washed up & past his prime. The same marquez who just ko'd juan diaz & joel casamayor (who had both never been stopped). The same marquez who gave pac all he could handle over the span of two wgt classes & would quite easily do the same if they were to meet rt now. You gotta be kidding me. I think it's ridiculous how people's personal perceptions of athletes mar the obvious. Say what you want about Mayweather but he's simply the best pure boxer the sport has seen over the past decade. I dont want to hear about the wgt diff's. Nobody forced marquez to take the payday & jump two wgt classes. Mayweather took the no. 2..or 3rd best fighter in the sport & boxed his ears off & I don't see where manny is going to do any better if they meet next year. As impressive as manny's recent victories over cash cows de la hoya & hatton, we've all seen floyd accomplish the same feats to an even greater extent in my opinion b/c he fought oscar at his natural wgt not a depleted 147 lbs. If I recall correctly he handled the golden boy weighing in at 146..147 while oscar had to have been close the middleweight limit by fight night (so dont beat me in the head with rhetoric of size differences). As for hatton, manny's early ko was impressive but mayweather slowly broke him down & punished him over the course of 10rds (you cant tell me that fight didnt take something out of his tank). If pacquiao defeats cotto come nov., we'll more than likely see him in mayweather clash next yr. It's the fight most heads want to see as well as the fight that will generate the most income for either man so all ?s will finally be ans'd at that time but I personally dont think manny can whoop floyd..simple as that.

If Mayweather wants to be considered the best, then he's got to get in the ring within his own division;

1) Cotto (a real welterweight)
2) Mosely (a real HOF welterweight)
3) P.Will (an alien capable of shifting shape and weight with tentacles)

Beat two of those mentioned and we'll call him the greatest thing since sliced bread.

**** you know why Shane Mosley is loved? You think he said to himself before fighting Winky and Vernon, hey this might be a bad business decision? The risk versus reward isn't enough for me to take the chance so I'm not going to do it?

No--but he earned people's respect by fighting two guys that were all wrong for him and were far more risk than reward. Even in losing he showed the balls and courage and the will to win. Win or lose, he showed that he wanted to test himself against the best. Everyone thought he'd get demolished by Margarito and the opposite happened. The man earned his stripes where it mattered. He thought like a real world class athlete should, not as a promoter/wanna be business man who looks for the bouts with the least resistance but highest economic reward.

[tesla_power]

I already said I wish hed fight these other guys Shane Cotto Pac. That wasnt good enough....

I comend you for having an open enough mind for even considering the fact that its possible.

My apologies then... have not read that post. I just read your most recent ones and it appears you are just playing. Well... have fun.

[jayhova29]

By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the devil.

Without dipping my toe into the message boards and other fan forums since the final bell of his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez Saturday night/Sunday morning, I can pretty much assume that as a prevailing sentiment.

But you know what?

He's a real-life Satan incarnate who can, ahem... fight like hell.

In pitching an absolute, complete and comprehensive shutout of Marquez ?the critics' pre-comeback choice as the world's No. 2 fighter ?in his first ring action since 2007, the Pretty Boy now known as "Money" has answered one question with dominant certainty.

He, and not Manny Pacquiao or any other 21-month stand-in, is the world's best fighter.

Don't believe it?

Watch the tape. Or re-watch it, as the case may be.

And over the course of 36 minutes, find me one thing that says otherwise.

One flaw. One error.

One ***** in the armor that truly indicates ?regardless of the fact different styles make different fights ?Pacquiao will do any better when he gets his chance next year.

But before you do, though, I'll save you all a little time.

Don't bother.

It doesn't exist.

Nowhere in a stretch of 12 rounds did Marquez do one specific thing or take one specific tack that caused the unflappable 32-year-old even a moment's worth of consternation. [details]

Damm, so many mayweather haterz here. Im going to write an opinion that understands the author claim but not from a nuthuggin perspective.

For one Shane Mosley was way out of line! Whether he thinks he can beat him or not you dont go raining on somebody's parade like that. The professional way to do it, is fight somebody ranked and then during the post fight interview you make your claim as to where you feel you are in the division and who you want to fight next. Only problem for Shane is that this pillow biter hasnt fought since january and his next fight isnt scheduled until mid december or early jan 2010 with Clottey or Berto, neither one is going to be a walk in the park. But if I was mayweather, he would wait another year for that bull****, but by then he would be a non factor in the p4p conversation.

What really kills me is that pacquiao has more **** ryders and nuthuggerz than mayweather will ever have. Like where the **** do people watch boxing at here. You cant cant compliment Mayweathers achievements or accomplishments without some naysayer hating. I hate his ****ing personality and i actually seen him outside the ring in person in a night club and he seems just as arrogant, however, he is the best boxer walking the planet.

The problem with Floyd here, is that he's so full of himself, so arrogant, so ****y, outrageously flamboyant, ignorant, overly flashly, and so god dam good at his craft that people dont give him the chance to actually relish in his moment because we hate him soooooooooooo bad that we want to see him lose. He brings this on himself. Shane knows his time is near, and he wants one last payday, but the other names rather fight each other, so steal Mayweathers moment to claim as your own. Rationalizing with Shane's actions in the ring on saturday, is borderline condoning mayweathers behavior on 24/7, it exhibits the same type of ignorance. The only difference Im use to this from Mayweather, Shame on you Shane.

[Xcusemymood]

who has floyd fought within his own weight division, that is/was a viable threat?

Very vague question......

Im going to assume you are talking about welterweight.

Pretty sure Judah was a threat, Hatton(before the fight) was a viable threat in most peoples eyes, regardless of hindsight.

Its not in his class but he moved up for Oscar which you are overlooking. Oscar at 154 was not a BS fight and t was tough for Floyd.

I will go on record and say he hasnt fought a murderers row of welterweights. There is still plenty for him to do at WW for sure, and I want to see it.

It doesnt change the fact that he was outstanding at all the lower weights he fought at and HE DID fight excellent fighters and exciting fights there. He has hardly ever take a clean punch, never been hurt, knocked down(debatable but regardless). I dont see how you cant say hes the best fighter out there.

There are people more exciting and you dont have to love him but the guy is good.

[Xcusemymood]

lolz. Stop calling Floyd the best fighter in the world cause he ain't. Until he beats Mosley and Cotto then he is the best fighter. But as long as he keeps on ducking them and fights smaller fighters than him then he won't be the best fighter in this era..

How is that even legitimate criteria? Like theres a one size fits all answer.

"He HAS to."

[GameBullDawg]

That actually was a good one. Best thing Ive ever seen you type on here for sure!

The best response for you is not the sack hiding all the ugly its the one that started this foolish talk, the worst post of the week and the need for the puke bag.

Jr is the sparkling glass house you and the others in the monkey parade live in but just as soon as Jr. gets cornered and signs a contract with Mosley , LOL, YORE glass house will be shattered and all will Fall,,,,,,,,, the monkey parade will go into hiding !

[Xcusemymood]

The best response for you is not the sack hiding all the ugly its the one that started this foolish talk, the worst post of the week and the need for the puke bag.

Jr is the sparkling glass house you and the others in the monkey parade live in but just as soon as Jr. gets cornered and signs a contract with Mosley , LOL, YORE glass house will be shattered and all will Fall,,,,,,,,, the monkey parade will go into hiding !

You must really hate Floyd.

[switchsouthpaw]

Very vague question......

Im going to assume you are talking about welterweight.

Pretty sure Judah was a threat, Hatton(before the fight) was a viable threat in most peoples eyes, regardless of hindsight.

Its not in his class but he moved up for Oscar which you are overlooking. Oscar at 154 was not a BS fight and t was tough for Floyd.

I will go on record and say he hasnt fought a murderers row of welterweights. There is still plenty for him to do at WW for sure, and I want to see it.

It doesnt change the fact that he was outstanding at all the lower weights he fought at and HE DID fight excellent fighters and exciting fights there. He has hardly ever take a clean punch, never been hurt, knocked down(debatable but regardless). I dont see how you cant say hes the best fighter out there.

There are people more exciting and you dont have to love him but the guy is good.

I was referring to fighting those within his own weight division(Welterweight). Judah is all flash and no substance, he loses when it matters. Yes he has power but the guy is a mental handicap, you don't need hindsight to figure that out, legitimate threats don't end up looking to face Matthew Hatton on undercards.

As for Ricky, Ricky made his bones at jr.welterweight and had problems with Collazo on his first trip up to the division, second Ricky had issues with Juan Urango as well.

Again who within the Welterweight division, unless I'm mistake Mayweather is a Welterweight right? Who has he fought? Yes he was great in the lower weight divisions(we praise him for that) however, the man now campaigns as a welterweight. So again--who has he fought?

Mosley jumping in the ring expressed a frustration real fight fans feel, enough with these catch-weight, gimmick/exhibition bouts. We want to see Mayweather fight as a welterweight against other welterweights, it is isn't rocket science.

[GameBullDawg]

Very vague question......

Im going to assume you are talking about welterweight.

Pretty sure Judah was a threat, Hatton(before the fight) was a viable threat in most peoples eyes, regardless of hindsight.

Its not in his class but he moved up for Oscar which you are overlooking. Oscar at 154 was not a BS fight and t was tough for Floyd.

I will go on record and say he hasnt fought a murderers row of welterweights. There is still plenty for him to do at WW for sure, and I want to see it.

It doesnt change the fact that he was outstanding at all the lower weights he fought at and HE DID fight excellent fighters and exciting fights there. He has hardly ever take a clean punch, never been hurt, knocked down(debatable but regardless). I dont see how you cant say hes the best fighter out there.

There are people more exciting and you dont have to love him but the guy is good.

WOW , he actually post , instead of laying back to criticize others ! BRAVO ! And you are right about fighting WW's, he has fought , in his lingo , B grade fighters or C grade, he needs to fight MOSLEY NEXT ! SOON !! Then he can go back into hiding.