Hatton vs. PBF..another Naz vs. Barrera?

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So because Barrera broke through Hamed's body movement, foot movement and counterpunching, that makes it automatic that Ricky can do that to Mayweather...

AND stop him from blocking his shots? Because Naz didn't try to block a single shot thrown by Barrera.

Thank you! It was a nice try, wasn't it?

No. No it wasn't a nice try.

Listen. I'm not saying whether i agree with my own post. I'm just putting a question out there. Now i know you have a very biased view of PBF - and i'm sorry i mentioned another boxers name and said that they could be slightly similiar. Infact - you'd proberbly be upset if i'd made a post saying "PBF..the new Jesus Christ?" saying that PBF shouldn't be connected to such an unworthy soul.

What i'm saying is. A counter-puncher/defensive fighter and odds on favourite, with a high sense of his own worth and huge ego.....HAS been beaten by a underdog pressure fighter.

I'm just noting the similarities. Do you not see those similarities?

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No. No it wasn't a nice try.

Listen. I'm not saying whether i agree with my own post. I'm just putting a question out there. Now i know you have a very biased view of PBF - and i'm sorry i mentioned another boxers name and said that they could be slightly similiar. Infact - you'd proberbly be upset if i'd made a post saying "PBF..the new Jesus Christ?" saying that PBF shouldn't be connected to such an unworthy soul.

What i'm saying is. A counter-puncher/defensive fighter and odds on favourite, with a high sense of his own worth and huge ego.....HAS been beaten by a underdog pressure fighter.

I'm just noting the similarities. Do you not see those similarities?

Well I guess I should have realized that someone would post something that they don't agree with...

I don't know what about any of my posts in this thread have screamed out "bias for Floyd Mayweather!"

Seriously, does anyone else think it is out of line that I said that there is a serious difference between the defenses of Hamed and Mayweather?

It's not even a small difference... Hamed doesn't ****ing block punches! Floyd fights in the shell, which sets up counters by blocking punches.

NOW, if you had just said that there was a chance that a come-forward pressure fighter would beat a defensive fighter, then I probably wouldn't have even posted, because I would agree with that.

Sorry I didn't agree 100% with you comparing Hamed's defense to Mayweather.

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Sometimes i worry for Hatton fans, too much talk about hope and analogies to this fight and that fight, i wonder how confident they are.

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The issue of the boxing defence is just one small componant of the arguement.

As for the bias - i know from your other postings. Not from this thread.

I digress...


It is not MY argument. It is the view of a sports writer which i found interesting and wished to share for discussion. Thats all.



Feel free to disagree- thats what i wanted - a discussion. But your not looking at the whole argument, or even the right part.

Of cause Naz and PBF are completely different - but they are both classed as counterpunchers/defensive boxers. They don't lead as much as they counter. There is the similarity.

They are both fighting pressure fighters. (Styles of Barrera and Hatton can be seen as more alike).

Other issues... the underdog being a pressure fighter - match
the egos - DEFINATE Match.
complacency in training - possible match - dancing with stars.

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Sometimes i worry for Hatton fans, too much talk about hope and analogies to this fight and that fight, i wonder how confident they are.

STFU. I'm sure in your mind if it was Totti vs. PBF, Totti would win. You can't talk about bias at all.

I for one, think PBF is likely to get the points win. I'm not biased - just very interested.

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The only thing that matches between PBF and Naz is there supposely Ego.

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The issue of the boxing defence is just one small componant of the arguement.

As for the bias - i know from your other postings. Not from this thread.

I digress...


It is not MY argument. It is the view of a sports writer which i found interesting and wished to share for discussion. Thats all.



Feel free to disagree- thats what i wanted - a discussion. But your not looking at the whole argument, or even the right part.

Of cause Naz and PBF are completely different - but they are both classed as counterpunchers/defensive boxers. They don't lead as much as they counter. There is the similarity.

They are both fighting pressure fighters. (Styles of Barrera and Hatton can be seen as more alike).

Other issues... the underdog being a pressure fighter - match
the egos - DEFINATE Match.
complacency in training - possible match - dancing with stars.

All this seems to have boiled down to is, Barrera was an underdog pressure fighter who bet a counterpuncher... so Hatton might do the same.

Okay, fair enough.

Then again, it could be another showing of Whitaker-Chavez... hopefully with better scoring this time.

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The issue of the boxing defence is just one small componant of the arguement.

As for the bias - i know from your other postings. Not from this thread.

I digress...


It is not MY argument. It is the view of a sports writer which i found interesting and wished to share for discussion. Thats all.



Feel free to disagree- thats what i wanted - a discussion. But your not looking at the whole argument, or even the right part.

Of cause Naz and PBF are completely different - but they are both classed as counterpunchers/defensive boxers. They don't lead as much as they counter. There is the similarity.

They are both fighting pressure fighters. (Styles of Barrera and Hatton can be seen as more alike).

Other issues... the underdog being a pressure fighter - match
the egos - DEFINATE Match.
complacency in training - possible match - dancing with stars.

The thing is, Barrera didn't go into that fight as a pressure fighter, he went into that fight as a counter puncher.

If you look at the fight he just stood there did'nt press the action much, just popped the jab a few times per round and simply out countered Naz and took advantage of his akward style.


PBF does'nt have an akward style and will not be counter punched.


The egos are a definite match

and as for complacency in training, it does'nt look like theres much complacency in Floyds training.

He was in dancing with the stars for 3 weeks and after that focused more on the fight.

Even while he was in dancing with the stars he was training.

Naz just did'nt train much for the Barrera fight.

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STFU. I'm sure in your mind if it was Totti vs. PBF, Totti would win. You can't talk about bias at all.

I for one, think PBF is likely to get the points win. I'm not biased - just very interested.

What is this?



Where did i talk about bias? please show me,

How am i being biased by simply stating your arguement isnt based on much fact as much as it is based on a hunch?

In other words your getting excited prematurely over a total non issue, i hope your not like this in the bedroom, that would be an issue.

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Naz was definately more technically sound than Mayweather though, for sure.

no way in gay hell,


Floyd is a real pure boxer with combinations, good jab, just all of the tools. Naz did weird things in the ring that would make you believe that he was a pure boxer but hes not. That was just Naz's athletic talent and ability. do you think Floyd would lose a boxing match against Barrera? i don't think so. he would have his way with Barrera. Junior Jones gave Barrera a clinic twice and i know Floyd boxes better than Junior Jones. Thats like saying that Roy Jones was a better pure boxer than Toney. he was not. once again, its the athletic ability and talent of Roy that would make you believe that but in reality, Toney has the much better boxing skills. Thats why i know Toney would have beaten Roy if he didn't suffer from weight drain. he had to be hooked up to IVs before the fight.