Top Ten Journeymen.....know what a Journeyman is?

[Dye]

Earnie Shavers definatly wasn't a journeyman.

shavers was a contender, he beat i think ken Norton by KO in the first that sure is not a journymen

[THE REAL NINJA]

Marion Wilson the names on his rec

[Phantasm]

Here's the criteria and category of fighters....


1. Champion
2. Contender
3. Fringe Contender
4. Journeyman
5. Trial Horse
6. Ham-n-Egger


A Journeyman is a fighter that can beat a champion on any given night due to his skill and heart; but generally isn't in the best of shape because of fighting too frequently or not being able to focus solely on boxing because of his regular job and need to pay the bills. Most are "Journeymen" due to bad breaks and bad management; but not due to lack of ability. These are the guys that are the preverbial "jack of all trades but masters of none"....they are just a notch below; but on any given night, can win it all. They fight the best and most of the time they lose....they are the fighters that will prove if your young prospect is the real thing or not because they will either make him or break him. Here's to the Journeymen....the backbone of boxing.

(Don't confuse a one-time contender who has slipped into journeyman status with a true journeyman.)....example: Ross Purity was a journeyman as was Oliver McCall before he won the title and Bert Cooper.

So....


Who are the Top Ten best p4p Journeymen ever?
Who are the Top Ten best heavyweight Journeymen ever?

What about Gatekeeper...the guy who prospects fight because he has challenged for a few titles but always comes up short and beating them puts their name in the mix for title shots.

[K-DOGG]

What about Gatekeeper...the guy who prospects fight because he has challenged for a few titles but always comes up short and beating them puts their name in the mix for title shots.

I'd say a gate-keeper is somewhere between a really good journeyman and a fringe contender.

[SuzieQ49]

the greatest journeyman of all time is tiger ted lowry

[Yogi]

Tiger Ted Lowry W-10 Rocky Marciano

[Dye]

ross puritty

[SuzieQ49]

Tiger Ted Lowry W-10 Rocky Marciano

actually rocky marciano W 10 tiger ted lowry 2x!!! 2nd time marciano won 9 out of 10 rounds



the first fight being a robbery is a complete myth. rocky was the effective aggresor, he beat up tiger ted to the body the whole night. rocky won the last 6 rounds of the fight. lowrys great defensive skills and experience allowed him to outbox a very raw marciano for some rounds, but rocky clearly won the fight. rocky fought too win, lowry didnt.


i spoke to rockys brother personally and he told me "the lowry fight is one of the biggest myths. lowry hardly threw any punches, he only fought to survive."- peter marciano


peter did tell me the lastarza fight was extremely close and could have gone either way, but he made sure he clarified rocky clearly won the lowry fight.

[AJ53]

without doubt britains top journeyman is peter buckley,

the saying have shorts will travel is probably this guys middle name.

the jouneyman is the unsung hero of the sport,
he's the guy that every promoter has his number in their phone.
i mean there is alot of fighters out there who can put on a pair of gloves and accept a purse but guys like peter buckley altough he has over 200 losses on his record come into the ring in fighting shape,
even if he just got the call to fight 20 minutes before.
he will fight anybody anywhere no questions asked, he is without doubt a promoters dream.
if you look at his record and think this guy is a tomato can you would be wrong i've seen him fight many times and i honestly dont think ive ever seen this guy in trouble.

a few other names that spring to mind are paul bonson and wayne shepard.
i know nobody will have heard of them because they are british and never mentioned outside of the boxing community.
but for me thats what a journeyman is!!!
he's the guy that everybody has seen fight but they dont know his name.

there is probably thousands of journeymen all over america that nobody has heard of outside of that state.
but to rate a top ten would be almost impossible imo,
there has been alot of journey's turned champ like johnny nelson carlos baldomir glen johnson and to some extent even winky had to travel to get fights and he is now rated as a £4£ fighter.

[Rockin']

Emanual Augustus (Burton) is a P4P best journeyman.......**** I don't think there is another fighter ever to have 25+ losses and be as good as this guy......

Freddy Pendelton ended up winning a world title with a similar amount of loses.

Rockin'