Would Tyson of beaten Holyfield, Foreman and Lewis between 86-90 befoe douglas defeat

[ManniePhresh]

yes he beats bowe, lewis, holyfield, maybe not foreman thats a 50/50 fight.

[nachorjj]

Prime Tyson KOs Lewis

Still loses to Big George

Possibly TKOs Holyfield, or decision

Probably you have reason

[them_apples]

90% of Tyson's KO's were guy's of Lewis' size, so wtf are you talking about?

Lewis is the most overrated HW ever. Talk about a snoozer and a guy who fought in a weak era, and still lost to Rahman and Byrd.

that's not true. Tyson fought big men, but Lewis was huge. Tucker was the only guy who was Lewis' size. Either way when Tucker fought Lewis they looked the same size. Bruno was big as well, I guess he's another offer as well.

You could count Douglas, but i mean - he lost to Douglas.

not 90%. Maybe 15 % of them were Lewis size.

[CarlosG815]

that's not true. Tyson fought big men, but Lewis was huge. Tucker was the only guy who was Lewis' size. Either way when Tucker fought Lewis they looked the same size. Bruno was big as well, I guess he's another offer as well.

You could count Douglas, but i mean - he lost to Douglas.

not 90%. Maybe 15 % of them were Lewis size.

Not exactly 6'5 but 90% of his opponents were were taller than him (at least 6'1) and had the same build as him.

The truth is, Lennox from a build standpoint, was hand crafted for Tyson's style and I'd imagine a KO would be in order before the 8th round.

[HaglerSteelChin]

I think its odd that Tyson was going to fight Holyfied if he had beaten Douglas than he lost and the fight of Holy vs Buster happened instead. Holyfied actually made the trip to Japan and saw Douglas win. Than before the whole **** issue after the 2nd Razor Ruddock fight the eventual fight was going to happen but than Tyson gets arrested in Indiana for ****.

To say that Tyson will easily dispose Holyfield is presposterous even the old tyson. Because Holyfied always had a granite chin and was a smart fighter. Tyson had briilliant moments but even during the Bonecrusher and TNT fights he would get frustrated and lose his focus. I think Holyfield would take Tyson to the limit and i can see Tyson winning by points with a KD being the difference-like a 115-112 or 114-113 win for Tyson.

Personally, I think a Prime Foreman beats tyson with possibly a few KD's taken place like the Lyle fight. Ali and even Young to a lesser degree gave a style that was more trobling to Foreman. The Young fight was also Foreman simply not being as sharp due to the excessive heat or the calling of god as he said.

Lewis i will give the edge against any version of Tyson. I wrote about this in a different thread in more detail. Prime Tyson does have the punchers chance and especially since Lewis was Kod by lesser punchers in Mccall and Rahman, but overall i see Lewis using jab and reach and winning by either points or KO. I also think he would do alot of clinching to avoid getting hit with the old tyson combos.

[Jim Jeffries]

90% of Tyson's KO's were guy's of Lewis' size, so wtf are you talking about?

Lewis is the most overrated HW ever. Talk about a snoozer and a guy who fought in a weak era, and still lost to Rahman and Byrd.

Are you being serious?

Anyhow, Tyson loses to all three, best chance maybe old Foreman.

If he fought Lewis 3 times, Mike might catch him one of those, but he's not winning a decision against Lennox.

Evander is just a bad match up for Mike. Not afraid of him, great chin, and gives back as good as he gets.

[AKATheMack]

Are you being serious?

Anyhow, Tyson loses to all three, best chance maybe old Foreman.

If he fought Lewis 3 times, Mike might catch him one of those, but he's not winning a decision against Lennox.

Evander is just a bad match up for Mike. Not afraid of him, great chin, and gives back as good as he gets.

I think during that time period LL would have been Mikes best chance. A young LL was more willing to trade and I doubt his chin would hold up. The older LL who wrked behind the jab and tied up on the inside is too big for any version of Mike. An old Foreman is still probably Mikes worse chance because Big George isnt going anywhere and if you come to him eventually hes going to take you out.

[crold1]

I think during that time period LL would have been Mikes best chance. A young LL was more willing to trade and I doubt his chin would hold up. The older LL who wrked behind the jab and tied up on the inside is too big for any version of Mike. An old Foreman is still probably Mikes worse chance because Big George isnt going anywhere and if you come to him eventually hes going to take you out.

Lewis was interesting. His best technical period doesn't match precisely with his best physical period. The hand speed he had in the early 90s wasn't as there in the late 90s, but he was less vulnerable and his feet were better. Thing to like about Lewis is he performed better in spots where more expected him to lose. He wasn't as good as a prohibitive favorite.

[Jim Jeffries]

I think during that time period LL would have been Mikes best chance. A young LL was more willing to trade and I doubt his chin would hold up. The older LL who wrked behind the jab and tied up on the inside is too big for any version of Mike. An old Foreman is still probably Mikes worse chance because Big George isnt going anywhere and if you come to him eventually hes going to take you out.

You know what, bit of a brain fart this early on my part. Lennox was hella green 86-90, so you're right. Though his late 92 destruction of Ruddock was pretty impressive, so maybe a couple years later, though I guess Mike was behind bars by then.

Old George improved his jab drastically over his younger incarnation, but he wasn't the aggressive, destructive force he was then either. It is too bad that Mike chose to fight nobody Douglas instead of Evander or George.

[crold1]

You know what, bit of a brain fart this early on my part. Lennox was hella green 86-90, so you're right. Though his late 92 destruction of Ruddock was pretty impressive, so maybe a couple years later, though I guess Mike was behind bars by then.

Old George improved his jab drastically over his younger incarnation, but he wasn't the aggressive, destructive force he was then either. It is too bad that Mike chose to fight nobody Douglas instead of Evander or George.

86-90? Lewis was in the amateurs most of that time. I definitely pick 88 Mike over Gold Medal Lewis.