Would Tyson of beaten Holyfield, Foreman and Lewis between 86-90 befoe douglas defeat

[bojangles1987]

Lewis and Holyfield in the 80's had barely started, and were not their best, so Tyson would have beat them.

[20LH20]

Yeah, I think he'd knock them all out.

[StarshipTrooper]

i hope you're kidding. no one's a bigger tyson fan than me but you're straight up talking out your ass dude.

I wouldn't bother: He's a hard-core Tyson nuthugger and by definition you can't have a reasonable conversation with him when Tyson is the subject.

Poet

[CarlosG815]

I wouldn't bother: He's a hard-core Tyson nuthugger and by definition you can't have a reasonable conversation with him when Tyson is the subject.

Poet

So then you agree that Holyfield beats Tyson from 86-90? if that's your idea of being reasonable then you're an even bigger moron than I thought.

Hate on me cause you're in your 40's and live with your mother, but anybody that knows anything about boxing will tell you that prime 80's Tyson destroys Evander Holyfield, and it's not even close.

The funny part is 99% of the time when I'm on here talking about Tyson beating guys, it's always the same people. Evander and Douglas. I'm not saying he can beat everybody, but those are guys that aren't on his level in his prime.

[AKATheMack]

At that point Lewis was far from the fighter the he became later and would have been more likely to get into exchanges leading to him being KOd. Tyson had more in him that when he finally met Evander and would stand a much better chance than he did in their 2 fights, but Evanders willpower is unbelievable and may have been enough to frustrate Mike and wear him down. I dont care how old Big George is if your gameplan is to come straight at him you're going to leave unconscious. Mike would land his share of punches and probably bust George up, but once Foreman lands a couple its over.

[AKATheMack]

So then you agree that Holyfield beats Tyson from 86-90? if that's your idea of being reasonable then you're an even bigger moron than I thought.

Hate on me cause you're in your 40's and live with your mother, but anybody that knows anything about boxing will tell you that prime 80's Tyson destroys Evander Holyfield, and it's not even close.

The funny part is 99% of the time when I'm on here talking about Tyson beating guys, it's always the same people. Evander and Douglas. I'm not saying he can beat everybody, but those are guys that aren't on his level in his prime.

Tyson would ALWAYS have a tough time with Evander. Evander has great skills accompanied by a great chin and ATG willpower and determination add that to the fact him and Mike are similar in size and its a close fight everytime out. Tyson fans love to blame the Douglas loss on Mikes problems oputside the ring, which no doubt could have played a factor, but the loss has way more to do with Douglas being one of the biggest underachievers the sport has seen and coming in in phenomenal shape for Tyson. The Douglas that showed up to fight Tyson gives damn near any HW in history a rough night.

[StarshipTrooper]

So then you agree that Holyfield beats Tyson from 86-90? if that's your idea of being reasonable then you're an even bigger moron than I thought......but anybody that knows anything about boxing will tell you that prime 80's Tyson destroys Evander Holyfield, and it's not even close

If you're talking about the Holyfield of the mid to late 80s then I'd agree with you that Tyson wins as Holyfield at that point hadn't matured into a Heavyweight yet. If you're talking about a PRIME Holyfield then no, Tyson does NOT win. A prime Holyfield beats a prime Tyson. There's a reason why boxing experts (ie. people PAID to know anything about boxing) consistantly rate Evander higher on their ATG lists than Mike.

Hate on me cause you're in your 40's and live with your mother

And my age is relevent why? Are you one of those little kids who thinks everyone just turns ****** when they hit 30? Got to love these immature skulls full of mush who think they're the smartest peeps on the planet when they don't know **** all

The funny part is 99% of the time when I'm on here talking about Tyson beating guys, it's always the same people. Evander and Douglas. I'm not saying he can beat everybody, but those are guys that aren't on his level in his prime.

Boy that Douglas fight really sticks in your craw doesn't it?

Poet

[CarlosG815]

And my age is relevent why? Are you one of those little kids who thinks everyone just turns ****** when they hit 30? Got to love these immature skulls full of mush who think they're the smartest peeps on the planet when they don't know **** all

Poet

Just stating why I think you're such a pitiful hateful hater. It helps to explain your immature behaviors.

And an ATG list isn't relevant when comparing two fighters. So by your logic if SRR is the #1 P4P fighter, NO MAN in his weight division can beat him? Give me a break. Douglas isn't even on most ATG lists, and he beat Tyson. It happens all the time, so why even bring that up?

When you break down their skills Tyson has him beat in the crucial departments that win fights. One thing that Holyfield had over Tyson was his ability to take a nasty beating and keep on fighting. Yes, he had greater willpower, I believe, as somebody noted earlier, but that isn't enough to overcome the lighting fast barrage of punches that Tyson would deal. Once he had Evander hurt, he would do what he did best - CLOSE.

BTW, cool rainbow, dude. Goes nice with your purple text.

[StarshipTrooper]

Just stating why I think you're such a pitiful hateful hater. It helps to explain your immature behaviors.

So can you come up with an explanation for you being a pitiful fan-boi? Hell, even a 20 something should be past juvenile hero worship but apparently you aren't.

And an ATG list isn't relevant when comparing two fighters. So by your logic if SRR is the #1 P4P fighter, NO MAN in his weight division can beat him? Give me a break. Douglas isn't even on most ATG lists, and he beat Tyson. It happens all the time, so why even bring that up?

It's relevent in that if one is ranked higher it means he's ultimately the BETTER fighter. Period. As for the Robinson example; anything can happen in a one-off fight and I believe any ATG fighter is capable of beating any other ATG fighter in his weight class on any given night (assuming there is no prohibitive stylistic mismatch such as Foreman versus short-armed pressure fighters). So while it's UNLIKELY Robinson loses to someone ranked below him, it's not impossible; and if you put Robinson in a 10 fight series with any Welterweight you care to name Ray would undoubtably come out on top.

When you break down their skills Tyson has him beat in the crucial departments that win fights. One thing that Holyfield had over Tyson was his ability to take a nasty beating and keep on fighting. Yes, he had greater willpower, I believe, as somebody noted earlier, but that isn't enough to overcome the lighting fast barrage of punches that Tyson would deal. Once he had Evander hurt, he would do what he did best - CLOSE.

And once again you overrate Tyson's skills.....as do all his true believing KoolAid drinkers. You should seriously just start a cult and get it over with.

BTW, cool rainbow, dude. Goes nice with your purple text.

The color of my font and the album cover in my signature are not germaine to the discussion. Bringing them up just shows that you're firing blanks intellectually.

Poet

[AKATheMack]

Just stating why I think you're such a pitiful hateful hater. It helps to explain your immature behaviors.

And an ATG list isn't relevant when comparing two fighters. So by your logic if SRR is the #1 P4P fighter, NO MAN in his weight division can beat him? Give me a break. Douglas isn't even on most ATG lists, and he beat Tyson. It happens all the time, so why even bring that up?

When you break down their skills Tyson has him beat in the crucial departments that win fights. One thing that Holyfield had over Tyson was his ability to take a nasty beating and keep on fighting. Yes, he had greater willpower, I believe, as somebody noted earlier, but that isn't enough to overcome the lighting fast barrage of punches that Tyson would deal. Once he had Evander hurt, he would do what he did best - CLOSE.

BTW, cool rainbow, dude. Goes nice with your purple text.

Actually against Tyson the greatest attribute you can have is great willpower and its not like Evander is a walking punching bag, he also happens to have very good skills. I also think you may be overestimating Tysons ability to hurt Evander who we've seen take knee buckling punches from the likes of Rid**** and Big George and keep coming.