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    #21
    Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
    Results, results, results, with all the contingencies.
    That works for me.
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      #22
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      Queenie
      So Joshua's entertainment level is exceptional. OK. He also does hit Usyk quite a bit... But there are levels to the game... Joshua is about Frank Bruno level or so... give, or take.
      .....Which, it must be mentioned, is nothing to be ashamed of. Every pug, MMA figher, Kickboxer, Freestyle Wrestler, BJJ champ ever would LOVE to have the skills to get where Joshua got!

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        #23
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

        .....Which, it must be mentioned, is nothing to be ashamed of. Every pug, MMA figher, Kickboxer, Freestyle Wrestler, BJJ champ ever would LOVE to have the skills to get where Joshua got!
        Il go one step further... Someone like Rockem had a short stint as a professional... That makes him 99.9% of 1%!

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          #24
          I always said Joshua was a semi-scrub. Maybe that is too denigrating. He wasn't much of a champ or much of a fighter though. A man would have to stand still for him in order to be hit. Am I glad? Yes, because it promotes my own idea that the best heavyweights are around the size of Usyk, or even smaller. I would love to see Usyk now whip Fury and then move on to crush Wilder. This would make Usyk the best heavyweight ever, or a solid contender for that distinction.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            Results, results, results, with all the contingencies.
            Let me amend the quote by adding...long enough to erase su****ions that he is a fly-by-night fluke. Contingencies in this case are things like which periods of their careers he fought them in and how good they were et al. Results results, results, and all you have to do is achieve them for long enough.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
              I always said Joshua was a semi-scrub. Maybe that is too denigrating. He wasn't much of a champ or much of a fighter though. A man would have to stand still for him in order to be hit. Am I glad? Yes, because it promotes my own idea that the best heavyweights are around the size of Usyk, or even smaller. I would love to see Usyk now whip Fury and then move on to crush Wilder. This would make Usyk the best heavyweight ever, or a solid contender for that distinction.
              - - Flubber and Deyonce can rent a motel room for a **** flick as far as I care to see any of those duckers.

              In AJ American debut, half dozen American contenders fell out of career purses ducking him not to mention Brits Flubber and Whyte who fed his Shyte to Flubber.

              Semi scrub is what U aspire to after removing U Chinese dentures.

              Always said Usyk better heavy record than Vander and he has the record to prove it in spades...yer welcome

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                #27
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Flubber and Deyonce can rent a motel room for a **** flick as far as I care to see any of those duckers.

                In AJ American debut, half dozen American contenders fell out of career purses ducking him not to mention Brits Flubber and Whyte who fed his Shyte to Flubber.

                Semi scrub is what U aspire to after removing U Chinese dentures.

                Always said Usyk better heavy record than Vander and he has the record to prove it in spades...yer welcome
                I don't believe in ducking. It's a term generally used by people who don't do anything for a living that would result in Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                  Il go one step further... Someone like Rockem had a short stint as a professional... That makes him 99.9% of 1%!
                  Yeah must be why he sounds like he's got a few screws loose in the ol' dome piece.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                    I don't believe in ducking. It's a term generally used by people who don't do anything for a living that would result in Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
                    - - I know Monkeys and grade schoolers exist as they been dominant on boxing forums for the 25 years I been at this.

                    So, more than a half dozen ranked contenders turn down career purses to fight AJ to instead fight each other for peanuts ain't a duck is it? Fat Andy and Usyk have the best scalps of this era that coincidentally are the ones who stepped up for career purses.

                    What grade U in this year?

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                      #30
                      Number of title defenses
                      Level of competition
                      Longevity

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