Could Bowe circa 1992 handle a 1960 Sonny Liston

[uncle ben]

Big Bowe who dealt Holyfield his first loss vs the Liston who crushed Williams and Folley and Harris. Bowe was the bigger man at 6'5 235 pounds vs Liston at about 6'1 212 lbs, although Liston seemed more muscular. But Bowe was bigger and better than anyone Liston ever beat. On the other hand, it can be argued that 1992 Holyfield was better than prime Liston. He was at the very least an equal tier of fighter as Liston.

[The Old LefHook]

Another of your David & galoot matches, eh? Liston is 4 inches shorter in height, but is up 3 inches in reach. Brooklyn Bowe makes up for it by leaning in, equalizing the length of their jabs, but also equalizing their height as well in the process. Sonny possessed a great straight right. Bowe only had a looping right also good for uppercuts. He is made to be beaten to the punch by Liston, who can deliver his payloads in perfect straight lines.

Both boys are heavily wrinkled of nape, and Bowe of brow as well.

[QueensburyRules]

Big Bowe who dealt Holyfield his first loss vs the Liston who crushed Williams and Folley and Harris. Bowe was the bigger man at 6'5 235 pounds vs Liston at about 6'1 212 lbs, although Liston seemed more muscular. But Bowe was bigger and better than anyone Liston ever beat. On the other hand, it can be argued that 1992 Holyfield was better than prime Liston. He was at the very least an equal tier of fighter as Liston.

- -Started U new topic and answered U own dumbo question...priceless...

Big Dummy throw his belt in the trash before he fights Sonny...FACT!!!

[GhostofDempsey]

Don't think there was much difference between '92 Bowe and 'Bowe, and Golota was working over Bowe in both fights even before the low-blows. I would favor Liston to win the war of attrition over Bowe in a bloody battle. Bowe was a cheap shot artist and Sonny was not the guy to get gritty with.

[Nash out]

Nash says the same Bowe who got outclassed twice by Golota! And binned his belt to avoid being beaten up by Lewis. Bowe got lucky in that he caught Holyfield right at the beginning of his HW career, when he was very undersized. Dillian Whyte is twice the fighter Bowe ever was, but it's trendy to like the old guys. Nash out - Can you handle the truth?

[Willie Pep 229]

Nash says the same Bowe who got outclassed twice by Golota! And binned his belt to avoid being beaten up by Lewis. Bowe got lucky in that he caught Holyfield right at the beginning of his HW career, when he was very undersized. Dillian Whyte is twice the fighter Bowe ever was, but it's trendy to like the old guys. Nash out - Can you handle the truth?

"Trendy" - ?

Tell me, which generation was it that the old didn't embrace their youth and the youth didn't disdain the same?

Nash Out thinks a universal constant is an insight.

[Nash out]

"Trendy" - ?

Tell me, which generation was it that the old didn't embrace their youth and the youth didn't disdain the same?

Nash Out thinks a universal constant is an insight.

Yes, trendy. Guys from the 90's and earlier get passes that guys fighting today don't get. Someone loses today, he's a bum, someone loses 7-15 from years ago he's an ATG, and there's an excuse for every loss, and wins against B level guys get regarded as elite wins.

Nash sees things that the average guy can't. He's a boxing historian, a tough competitor, and a helluva poster. He is here to drop knowledge for those who seek it. Nash out.

[billeau2]

Big Bowe who dealt Holyfield his first loss vs the Liston who crushed Williams and Folley and Harris. Bowe was the bigger man at 6'5 235 pounds vs Liston at about 6'1 212 lbs, although Liston seemed more muscular. But Bowe was bigger and better than anyone Liston ever beat. On the other hand, it can be argued that 1992 Holyfield was better than prime Liston. He was at the very least an equal tier of fighter as Liston.

Unk

It depends how you look at liston. To me? in a tourney of all the greats, I think Liston might win it. Ill tell you why: Liston had no real weaknesses. I mean he had some bad outings, every fighter did... But he was the perfect size, with incredible reach and a jab to match, he was strong, technically gifted, threw punches in bunches, best finisher, or one of the best, threw all shots, fought at all ranges, was mean, intent in the ring, defensively able, great chin, and could fight at a swarmer's pace, despite being a great technical puncher and having the punch of a puncher... When Ali beat Sonny, Liston was by most accounts past it... over 40 by at least a few years.

Bowe had talent. Bowe could do a lot in the ring. But Bowe was slower than Liston, not as good a jab, not the same reach (reach is more important than size), and could be broken down (thats really what Golota did to Bowe). Liston would beat Bowe badly IMO.

Holyfield was very talented. When Holly boxed he could be a handful for bigger guys because he was more active. Liston had the engine of a swarmer though. Holy at his best would be a tough opponent for any of the great heavyweights, but could be beaten despite that.

[DeeMoney]

Nash says the same Bowe who got outclassed twice by Golota! And binned his belt to avoid being beaten up by Lewis. Bowe got lucky in that he caught Holyfield right at the beginning of his HW career, when he was very undersized. Dillian Whyte is twice the fighter Bowe ever was, but it's trendy to like the old guys. Nash out - Can you handle the truth?

I get what you are writing, rose tinted glasses of history and all. But 90s, old?! That hurts man.

[Nash out]

I get what you are writing, rose tinted glasses of history and all. But 90s, old?! That hurts man.

I know what you mean. I started watching boxing in 1990, aged 6 or 7, by the time 1995 or so came around I considered myself a veteran boxing fan, when I was like 11/12. Time just flys by. I remember those days like yesterday, but I don't let nostalgia overrule reality like most people do. Today's standards are almost impossible for a boxer, it was so different in the past. Switch Mayweather's record with SRR in modern times and it gets picked apart. Fact. Nash out.