Black Boxing Heavyweights - Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, & Muhammad Ali - Extra History

[Elemental Fist]

Came across this video, what do you guys think?

[Willie Pep 229]

As usual it paints the IRS in an unfair light. -- It also created a confused timeline for JJ (for the uneducated fan) by having him serve one year in 1920 and then announcing he lost his title - their facts are correct but the juxtaposing of their narrative is confusing.

I think the Ali graphic is the only one that looks like the fighter.

Generally speaking it is a good little history for casual fans.

[joseph5620]

As usual it paints the IRS in an unfair light. -- It also created a confused timeline for JJ (for the uneducated fan) by having him serve one year in 1920 and then announcing he lost his title - their facts are correct but the juxtaposing of their narrative is confusing.

I think the Ali graphic is the only one that looks like the fighter.

Generally speaking it is a good little history for casual fans.

What was unfair about it?

[Willie Pep 229]

What was unfair about it?

The short answer: 1942 was the first year that the withholding tax began to diminish the average working man's paycheck, not to mention that the USA was about to send 11 million of these common working men overseas to free the world from oppression and many to their deaths. The rich needed to pay their taxes!

In regards to the IRS refusing to accept the charity fight donations as tax relief is completely wrong. Here is the long answer (my opinion):

[joseph5620]

The short answer: 1942 was the first year that the withholding tax began to diminish the average working man's paycheck, not to mention that the USA was about to send 11 million of these common working men overseas to free the world from oppression and many to their deaths. The rich needed to pay their taxes!

In regards to the IRS refusing to accept the charity fight donations as tax relief is completely wrong. Here is the long answer (my opinion):

Okay thanks. I know very little about how the IRS operated during that time.

[Elemental Fist]

The short answer: 1942 was the first year that the withholding tax began to diminish the average working man's paycheck, not to mention that the USA was about to send 11 million of these common working men overseas to free the world from oppression and many to their deaths. The rich needed to pay their taxes!

In regards to the IRS refusing to accept the charity fight donations as tax relief is completely wrong. Here is the long answer (my opinion):

Thanks for the information. Seems information like this are either ignored or forgotten by some sport historians.

[Elemental Fist]

As usual it paints the IRS in an unfair light. -- It also created a confused timeline for JJ (for the uneducated fan) by having him serve one year in 1920 and then announcing he lost his title - their facts are correct but the juxtaposing of their narrative is confusing.

I think the Ali graphic is the only one that looks like the fighter.

Generally speaking it is a good little history for casual fans.

While the IRS thing might be an exaggeration and Louis was more universally accepted as world champion than Johnson was, there was still a part of mainstream that didn't accept him with open arms.

There's one possible notable example that's been going around was the once popular boxing comic strip character Joe Palooka. Before Palooka would end up having his more iconic cowlicked blond look he sported in the late 30s, the character's early character design is said to have changed depending on who the world champion was but would end up sticking with his more iconic look during the period when Louis was champion. Seems like an odd coincidence.

[Willie Pep 229]

While the IRS thing might be an exaggeration and Louis was more universally accepted as world champion than Johnson was, there was still a part of mainstream that didn't accept him with open arms.

There's one possible notable example that's been going around was the once popular boxing comic strip character Joe Palooka. Before Palooka would end up having his more iconic cowlicked blond look he sported in the late 30s, the character's early character design is said to have changed depending on who the world champion was but would end up sticking with his more iconic look during the period when Louis was champion. Seems like an odd coincidence.

I want to go looking for some of those images - that is interesting - just a few years back someone in the Philly area bought up the Joe Palooka copyright and was suppose to start marketing the character again but it didn't seem to happen.

[billeau2]

Came across this video, what do you guys think?

Its decent for someone relatively new to the history of the sport. On a par with Wikipedia... I happen to be very fond of Wikipedia, so that is not a jab lol. Sure one could pick apart some of the assertions, but at the level of info this presentation is fine.