Floyd Mayweather Jr. in history

[BKM-]

He ranks very high on skill, pound for pound fighting ablity or head to head matchups. But these Historical P4P lists are ranked within the level of competition and accomplishments. Mayweather's level of competition is not impressive enough to be rated high on an all time list. We're not talking about some list here, this is in the same breath as the likes of SRR, SRL, Ali, Whitaker etc etc. To get himself higher on the list, he would need to fight most of the big names, great fighters, show how he can handle diversity and most importantly..

He needs to have a great trilogy with another great fighter to cement his legacy. That is by far the best way to cement your legacy.

[-Hyperion-]

leaving lil floyd out of the picture for a second. would you pick pryor against duran? I know I would not. It is tempting, but I would not.

well yeah thats a good point, but pryor does have the edge in power and size... that wouldve been one hell of a fight

[Underboss]

Duran failed? Tito failed? Delahoya failed? You obviously do not realize that the era in which we are in now does not exemplify the competition that boxing possesed in the time of the aboved mentioned names.

he's an idiot. he has no knowledge of boxing.

[Phantasm]

theonly monkey is you STIG never insult a black man like floyd yopur probably a jealous white man or hispanic, you guys will continue to lose to us. every latin fighter loses to a black athlete its genetic SIR or Sissy?

Looks like we got a new one.

[pelonxsoldier28]

SEE that what you jealous guys wants for floyd to get caught , because we black boxeras have been using you guys for punching bags for over 100 years of beating your tito failed, your duran failed, benitiz failed, de la hoya failed, cotto will failed to but not to zab judah another brother will beat him too, de la hoya the sissy was beat by mosley, hopkins, floyd and trinidad, though mexicans are the toughest latino they failed under the black kings of the ring be well ALLL stop HAting on the chosen

YOU ARE A DUMBASS RACIST YOURSELF, BOXING IS A SPORT NOT A PLACE WHERE YOU SHOULD BRING THAT HATE. ALL THOSE LATINO FIGHTERS HAVE BEATIN BLACK FIGHTERS, AND VISE VERSA, WHO CARES ALMOST ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EXCITING TO WATCH, LEAVE THAT BULL**** SOMEWHERE ELSE. MABE YOU SHOULD GO TO A RACIST FORUM. I THINK YOU WOULD BE MORE AT HOME THERE

[shocky]

YOU ARE A DUMBASS RACIST YOURSELF, BOXING IS A SPORT NOT A PLACE WHERE YOU SHOULD BRING THAT HATE. ALL THOSE LATINO FIGHTERS HAVE BEATIN BLACK FIGHTERS, AND VISE VERSA, WHO CARES ALMOST ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EXCITING TO WATCH, LEAVE THAT BULL**** SOMEWHERE ELSE. MABE YOU SHOULD GO TO A RACIST FORUM. I THINK YOU WOULD BE MORE AT HOME THERE

floyd is a good circus act type boxer. he is good, not great. he will be forgotten in boxing history. it would be an insult to the boxing greats to have his name mentioned with them. so get real folks and stop all the bull****.

[butterfly1964]

floyd is a good circus act type boxer. he is good, not great. he will be forgotten in boxing history. it would be an insult to the boxing greats to have his name mentioned with them. so get real folks and stop all the bull****.

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floyd is a good circus act type boxer. he is good, not great. he will be forgotten in boxing history. it would be an insult to the boxing greats to have his name mentioned with them. so get real folks and stop all the bull****.

at some point you will have to face the facts (the win, the titles in the weight classes), get real and shut up

[Underboss]

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[pbftxrs316]

another floyd hate thread. i find myself putting that in the beginning of my posts a lot because of threads like these. to have an opinion of a fighter for his accomplishments is one thing when you've seen his whole professional career, but to make posts about someone who i'm sure more than half of you haven't seen his career in full or for that matter sugar robinson's career, ali's career in full, leonard's career in full is just ******. you people make claims like who has floyd ever fought to be called an elite fighter? and you then claim he needs to fight cotto, mosley, hatton, and others before he can be even considered an all time great. but, then you ****** ****s fail to make claims like, who has cotto ever fought that was eilte? who has hatton ever fought that was elite? you people have claimed in the past that hatton is overrated, he only beat a past prime kosta tszyu. other than that, he hasn't beaten any other elite fighter. the same with cotto. he has tremendous skills like his body punching, but that's just skills. who has he ever fought that was elite. then you guys fail to put in your already biased and one dimensional posts and threads that mayweather has called out all of these guys, and they have turned him down, some more than once(ala shane mosley). you guys claim that floyd shoudl fight paul williams, margarito, winky wright, and he should have fought hamed, barrera, kosta tszyu, and others at lightweight, and super lightweight, but then you guys claim that fyou didn't see anybody beating floyd at these weights, and that he was his best at these weights. who has paul williams ever fought? who has margarito ever fought? winky wright didn't even take floyd seriously when he was called out by floyd. floyd has called out hamed, barrera, tszyu, frietes, cassamayor, and others publicly(like after his fights in the post fight inteview), but the fights never happened. who's to blame, floyd is? is it money? or is it the fact that these guys didn't really want floyd like they claimed? you guys like to comapre floyd to other fighters from past eras. how can you rank an all time great without seeing their careers in full. i'm sure many boxing experts on television have seen most of these past great's fights in full, so they have more of an argument, but ranking these guys like ali, mayweather jr, robinson, leonard in the all time great category is opinion centered, because who really knows who's greater than who. could leonard have beaten guys like zab judah at welterweight, who knows, it's opinion, while many of you beileve he would have killed judah, you really don't know for sure. could floyd have beaten thomas hearns? many fell hearns would have killed floyd, but after reading countless amounts of threads and posts on floyd mayweather jr, i'm sure many of you base that assumption and prediction on hate for floyd jr, and not on his actual skill, which takes away any substance your posts and threads have to begin with. could hearns beat oscar de la hoya? could jake lamotta beat floyd mayweather? could leonard beat floyd mayweather or vica versa? who really knows? nobody does, but when you're a fighter, to be considered great, a part of it has to do with your confidence and belief in yourself. floyd feels he is the best fighter ever, whether it's true or not, is a matter of opinion, not actual facts. not everyone believes srr is the greatest fighter ever. not everyone believes ali is the greatest fighter ever, and he's called himself the greatest publicly many times, although he has claimed srr as the greatest fighter ever. floyd feels he is the best fighter of all time, but how is an all time great really measured. i mean, come on, fighters like mayweather jr, wille pep and pernell whitaker have all been called defensive savants. their skill level in defense is second to none, yet they lack the power to be called knckout gods, although they have knckouts on their records. they all had speed. they were all slick. they all had good combinations, yet their weren't heavyweight fighters. now fighters like srl, mike tyson, and srr, all had great speed, power, and good combinations, yet although they had decent defensive(especially tyson in his younger days), they were not better than pep, mayweather jr, and whitaker to many people. but, to many people, they are greater than pep, mayweather jr, and whitaker. why? they fought better oppisition in their time, but let's be honest here. willie pep has fought way more than leonard, tyson, mayweather jr, whitaker,and many others just like roboinson. boxing as a whole has changed dramatically over the years. the level of competition has in a way decreased in the modern eras. floyd jr didn't have the hearns, durans and haglers leonard had. yet, with the competition he has had, he has beaten everyone of them. some fighters were tough for floyd like castillo, sosa, judah, and even emanuel agustus to some extent. floyd fough at lighter weights for most of his career compared to leonard and robinson and others. but, he has moved up 5 different weight class and hasn't been beaten. that's saying something. that's should be considered an all tiem great accomplishment. the man is still undefeated. he has been p4p champion in an era that has had great fighters but not like in the 80s, 70s, and 60s, to many people, but is that floyd's fault. actually, if you look at the fighters today and in the 90s, they look like better athletes than any other other era. alothough, the rounds aren't 15 rounds anymore, i'm sure many of today's fighter can prepare themselves for 15 round fights, even though they have only fought at most 12 rounds. the bottom line is this people, floyd mayweather, whether you want to admit it or not, is an all time great to many people, an dboxing experts. he has proven himself to be called so, whether you agree with his opponents or not. he has beaten eilte fighters like corrales(rip), de la hoya, hernandez, castillo, judah, baldomir, gatti, and chavez. his skill level is the best in the business, bar none, yet, many of you people lack the true defintion of what a boxer really is. you people seem to lack the knowledge of boxing. even larry merchant, who couldn't hate floyd mayweather anymore than he does today, even admits that floyd boxes as naturally as a fish swims. what you people call running, true boxing fans like myself, sin, dlt, and others call great foot movement and ring generalship. what you people call potshots, we call choosing your shots effectively.

you people are so bloodthirsty that you forget what great boxing really is. let me remind you ****s that floyd mayweather is the opitimy of a great boxer. he does everything well. he makes you fight at his pace, and he controls the fight, whether you look aggressive against him or not, it's called great boxing, great rign savvyness, smarts. he beat oscar de la hoya this way. he said, smarts wins fights, and he couldn't be anymore right. his smarts won him the fight against oscar. floyd mayweather, unlike the thread starter claimed, won the fight because he was the smarter fighter, so deal with it. oscar fought at his pace, and got caught with the cleaner punches. i'll leave it at that for now.