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    Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
    My top 10 is based on how good they are and how long of a title reign they had. I dont get why some people make frazier, holy and tyson as borderline and yet sonny liston is automatically top 10. Liston was champ for 15 minutes, his big wins are cleveland willams and floyd patterson, its not like his resume is incredible. This is my top 10 based on accomplishments and how good they are.

    1.Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. George Foreman
    5. Lennox Lewis
    6. Rocky Marciano
    7. Joe Frazier
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Sonny Liston
    10. Mike Tyson

    Dempsey beat willard, firpo and sharkey. Yeah what a great resume for top 5. His best wins are gibbons and carpentier, two guys that are the same size as joe calzaghe.

    that list is close to mine actually you are one of very few people who recognise hopw good larry holmes was.
    and i do agree that holyfield and definately frazier should both be in the top ten frazier for the reasons i've mentioned. Holyfield because he was a 4 time champion he had amazing heart and a great chin (making up for his lack of power) he was quick when young and very strong when older he fought the best of his time. he beat tyson twice (admittidly not at his best) na dgave lennox lewis 2 great fights. its a fallacy not to include evander holyfield in the top ten, almost as bad as not including dempsey!!

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      Originally posted by joelouisbarrow View Post
      so going by your logic rocky marciano and dempsey should be on a light heavy list as they weighed only a few pounds more than tunney
      No becuase most of tunney's fights were actually at Light Heavyweight.

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        Originally posted by K-DOGG View Post
        Frazier's just outside of my Top 10 and Tunney's just inside. I love Joe Frazier and it bugged me taking him out of the top 10 almost as much as having Ali in at #2 for a while did. So, who knows, Joe might make a comeback. Still, Tunney's ability cannot be denied and if he'd not retired, it would have been proven against the likes of Sharkey, Schmeling, and Baer IMO.

        yeah but sharkey, schmeling and baer are bums...so sayeth the pimp

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          Originally posted by joelouisbarrow View Post
          i liked frazier..i loved his swarming style BUT apart from ali and foreman who did he really fight ?...a blown up light heavy in foster...ellis and quarry who were only average imo and a handfull of non en****** ( i cant even think of their names )....i always rated holyfield even back when he was a cruiser
          your right ellis bonavena and quarry they can hardly hold a candle up to 'two ton' galento now can they?!

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            Originally posted by joelouisbarrow View Post
            yeah but sharkey, schmeling and baer are bums...so sayeth the pimp
            Sharkey isnt very good, the other two are decent.

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              Originally posted by hemichromis View Post
              your right ellis bonavena and quarry they can hardly hold a candle up to 'two ton' galento now can they?!
              two ton tony was very underated

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                Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
                Sharkey isnt very good, the other two are decent.

                decent..thats very kind of you pimp

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                  Originally posted by joelouisbarrow View Post
                  two ton tony was very underated
                  He was also very overweight.

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                    Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
                    He just doesnt deserve to be in the top 10, neither does jack johnson. All the other guys in the top 10 beat better comp and before u start an argument on tyson fighting weak comp, let me put it in this way.

                    Michael spinks> gibbons and carpentier
                    38 year old larry holmes> willard and firpo
                    Tony Tucker and Trevor Berbick> brennan and miske

                    your not saying louis shouldn't be in the tp ten are you?:

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                      Originally posted by joelouisbarrow View Post
                      decent..thats very kind of you pimp
                      Mac schmeling had a timeframe in which he was good, baer was good but its not like he's one of the best ever. Jack sharkey was wasted potential, he turned into a big disapointment.

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