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    #21
    Originally posted by phallus View Post
    i want carwin to win the fight but brock will lay and pray his way to victory, there's no way he stands and trades with carwin, he'll have big shane on his back for the whoe fight, maybe do some ground and pound but probably win a boring UD. we will see big shane and then cain velasquez laying on their backs for 25 minutes. brock will be a giant vanilla gorilla randy couture in his next two fights
    Everybody is acting like Brock's takedowns and ground and stall is simply impetuous. Sure it's good, but getting takedowns for 25 minutes straight against a guy like Carwin (or Caine for that matter) is a lot easier said than done, especially if Carwin has been training specifically to stuff your takedowns for close to a year. Carwin is a fighter, Lesnar is an overhyped one dimensional fraud. Just wait to see how quickly he folds once Carwin lays hands on him.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Nodogoshi View Post
      Everybody is acting like Brock's takedowns and ground and stall is simply impetuous. Sure it's good, but getting takedowns for 25 minutes straight against a guy like Carwin (or Caine for that matter) is a lot easier said than done, especially if Carwin has been training specifically to stuff your takedowns for close to a year. Carwin is a fighter, Lesnar is an overhyped one dimensional fraud. Just wait to see how quickly he folds once Carwin lays hands on him.
      i hope this is true but when you got a 285 lb silverback gorilla laying on top of you it's not so easy to get him off, i just hope the ref stands them up when things get boring but i know brock will shoot for a takedown again right away before big shane can land the right hand and knock him the f.uck out, what i'd like to see though, is shane sprawling against the cage with a short hook while the vanilla gorilla is trying to take him down, just like he did to frank mir

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        #23
        Originally posted by Nodogoshi View Post
        Everybody is acting like Brock's takedowns and ground and stall is simply impetuous. Sure it's good, but getting takedowns for 25 minutes straight against a guy like Carwin (or Caine for that matter) is a lot easier said than done, especially if Carwin has been training specifically to stuff your takedowns for close to a year. Carwin is a fighter, Lesnar is an overhyped one dimensional fraud. Just wait to see how quickly he folds once Carwin lays hands on him.
        lets keep in mind that gonzaga was whipping carwins ass handily until carwin landed a big shot out of the blue.

        brock is huge and maybe the most athletic heavyweight ever. carwin wont have enough in the tank to put brock out after 2 rounds have passed. i try to take everyone seriously but your post is so bias and ******. lesnar overhyped? one dimensional? i guess if being above and beyond - the most athletic fighter and wrestler in your weight class is one dimensional, sure. you are a moron.

        suggesting carwin will win isn't ******, suggesting that brock is overhyped and one dimensional is absurd. i bet you thought couture would expose brock for the big fraud he was. i bet you also thought that mir was going to submit a one dimensional novice brock lesnar and send him back to WWE.

        doesnt matter though, i am not taking my bet back - but id love to bet points with YOU on this fight, just cause you are so god damn gay.

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          #24
          Originally posted by kenso View Post
          lets keep in mind that gonzaga was whipping carwins ass handily until carwin landed a big shot out of the blue.

          brock is huge and maybe the most athletic heavyweight ever. carwin wont have enough in the tank to put brock out after 2 rounds have passed. i try to take everyone seriously but your post is so bias and ******. lesnar overhyped? one dimensional? i guess if being above and beyond - the most athletic fighter and wrestler in your weight class is one dimensional, sure. you are a moron.

          suggesting carwin will win isn't ******, suggesting that brock is overhyped and one dimensional is absurd. i bet you thought couture would expose brock for the big fraud he was. i bet you also thought that mir was going to submit a one dimensional novice brock lesnar and send him back to WWE.

          doesnt matter though, i am not taking my bet back - but id love to bet points with YOU on this fight, just cause you are so god damn gay.
          Very true i thought Gonzaga was going to take that one, but let us also remember that Randy was giving Brock all he could handle until he got caught. Despite being ridiculously out sized.

          None of their previous fights hold any merit going into this match up because they have yet to fight anyone like each other.

          However if i were a betting man (Thankfully im not) id probably pick Carwin to take this one. At this point he seems to be the more complete fighter out of the two and Lesnar is coming off of a serious illness.

          Also Cawin laying people out with one punch is something i have not seen Brock accomplish and no matter how good Brocks wrestling may be (which in my opinion they are both comparable) the fight will still start on the feet.

          I got Carwin by k.o but i would not put money on it.

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            #25
            Originally posted by kenso View Post
            lets keep in mind that gonzaga was whipping carwins ass handily until carwin landed a big shot out of the blue.

            brock is huge and maybe the most athletic heavyweight ever. carwin wont have enough in the tank to put brock out after 2 rounds have passed. i try to take everyone seriously but your post is so bias and ******. lesnar overhyped? one dimensional? i guess if being above and beyond - the most athletic fighter and wrestler in your weight class is one dimensional, sure. you are a moron.

            suggesting carwin will win isn't ******, suggesting that brock is overhyped and one dimensional is absurd. i bet you thought couture would expose brock for the big fraud he was. i bet you also thought that mir was going to submit a one dimensional novice brock lesnar and send him back to WWE.

            doesnt matter though, i am not taking my bet back - but id love to bet points with YOU on this fight, just cause you are so god damn gay.
            Fuck off. I posted how I literally see the fight going. I think your going to be surprised by how things actually go.

            Brock is overhyped and one dimensional. Gonzaga caught Carwin on the feet and buzzed him, sure. Carwin regained his wits and knocked Gonzaga out.

            Now kindly go fuck yourself. You don't know ****, and useless insults does not help support your "argument."

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              #26
              Getting buzzed by Gonzaga and coming back to win soon after is less of a problem than getting subbed by Mir in one round IMO. Yeah, Brock has improved since then but I still think it says something about him as a fighter.

              Though I agree with the rest of you about how Lesnar will fight, it wouldn't surprise me if he traded at some point and was made to regret it. I just think that the guy is an idiot and even with the perfect strategy from his coaches may still be ****** enough to stand with Carwin more than he should, just to try and prove a point or because of his ego.

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                #27
                im calling a win for brock by ko.....carwin is a beast for sure i just got a feeling brock is gonna catch him and finish him while taking some shots as i do believe his chin is better than carwin....either way its going to be epic seeing two behemoths face to face...i cant wait

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                  #28
                  Likes been said 12 months ago i would of said Brock ...but after such a bad illness and long lay off surely you would be mad betting money on Brock being the same fighter ??
                  Its gonna be one hell of an intresting fight though ! ..cant wait

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                    #29
                    There is no safe bet in this fight. But i'm betting on Carwin in a parlay anyway coz he can win this fight more ways than Lesnar and imo has proven more than Lesnar has

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Nodogoshi View Post
                      Fuck off. I posted how I literally see the fight going. I think your going to be surprised by how things actually go.

                      Brock is overhyped and one dimensional. Gonzaga caught Carwin on the feet and buzzed him, sure. Carwin regained his wits and knocked Gonzaga out.

                      Now kindly go fuck yourself. You don't know ****, and useless insults does not help support your "argument."
                      no one dimensional fighter becomes world champ in MMA - the ****ing sport that involves ALL dimensions of fighting.

                      as far as how you see the fight going - thats fine, but your ******ed view of the sport is what makes me throw insults at you. i am not arguing with you if lesnar is going to win or not, i will do that with the rest of the thread. i am merely pointing out the obvious - that you are an extremely over-bias idiot.

                      your prediction of the fight is not ******, it might go down exactly how you say. who knows? it might go down nothing like anyone expects - lesnar might KO carwin with a high kick (unlikely but the point is in the fight game, no one knows whats REALLY going to happen until its over). but to call lesnar overhyped and one dimensional after hes ran through the best UFC has to offer (aside from carwin, who he is now fighting) is absurd. i mean, sure you obviously dont like lesnar and want him to lose - but one dimensional? overhyped? what a moron. if lesnar was overhyped then more people in this thread would be picking him to win.

                      you know who you sound like? you sound EXACTLY like WLAD_OWNS.

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