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    Yeah Roger is much bigger, that was the openweight final. That's one of the things I like about BJJ, how a smaller guy can win the absolute division.

    The difference between the two isn't mentioned really. Every now and then it's discussed how certain techniques would be modified for no-gi or a streetfight, and one of the instructors sometimes goes over stuff like standing wristlocks and things like that, but that's about it.

    I can understand why it bothers some of the Gracies, a lot of people forget that the style they taught covered more real-fight possibilities than sport BJJ does, and is more of a complete style in certain ways. Plus like you said, scoring points goes against the idea of the art, makes it less likely that you'll be wearing out a bigger guy and using his advantages/strength/size against him.
    Last edited by Clegg; 03-22-2011, 10:30 PM.

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      Originally posted by Clegg View Post
      Yeah Roger is much bigger, that was the openweight final. That's one of the things I like about BJJ, how a smaller guy can win the absolute division.

      The difference between the two isn't mentioned really. Every now and then it's discussed how certain techniques would be modified for no-gi or a streetfight, and one of the instructors sometimes goes over stuff like standing wristlocks and things like that, but that's about it.

      I can understand why it bothers some of the Gracies, a lot of people forget that the style they taught covered more real-fight possibilities than sport BJJ does, and is more of a complete style in certain ways.
      i just looked it up. they have roger listed at 6'4 205 and jacare at 6'0 185.

      that's got to be with them cutting weight for mma matches. so figures roger walks around 6'4 230 and jacare 6'0 200? sounds about right.


      the helio-side gracies view bjj as a self defense technique.

      some moves that you would use in sports would be a big NO-NO in a self defense situation.

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        Originally posted by Clegg View Post
        That's one of the things I like about BJJ, how a smaller guy can win the absolute division.
        btw clegg did you know that judo back in the days was so much similar to current day bjj?

        back in japan , the little guys started using the ground game to beat the bigger guys in judo.

        jigaro kano had to change judo's rules to make it more standup and throwing based because the ground guys were dominating the big guys who preferred stand up.

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          Yeah, I know a lot of people think judo was better decades ago than it is now because of the different rule changes.

          Judo is fun to watch, it's a shame it doesn't get used more in MMA, it's more entertaining to see someone put on their back with a throw than with a double leg takedown or whatever.

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            Originally posted by Clegg View Post
            Yeah, I know a lot of people think judo was better decades ago than it is now because of the different rule changes.

            Judo is fun to watch, it's a shame it doesn't get used more in MMA, it's more entertaining to see someone put on their back with a throw than with a double leg takedown or whatever.
            no gi that's why.

            so much easier to throw someone with the gi on.

            they should make mma fighters wear a gi.

            make it realistic.

            in a real fight , people are not gonna be fighting you in their underwear.

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                Originally posted by Clegg View Post
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