Why do shy cowardly loners hero worship Bruce Lee?

[Rockin']

"Look at my hand… That's a little Chinese hand. He'd kill me"

There may have been a teeny size difference between the two.

I'd see Bruce trying to take his legs out, but wouldn't Alis reach be longer than Bruces leg?...................Rockin'

[elfag]

I never understand why you shy wimpy loners(who were bullied as youngsters) glorifiy Bruce Lee. You guys often worship Bruce Lee as some heroic underdog against evil.


Well here's the reality. The real Bruce Lee was the complete opposite of a heroic underdog fighting for good and justice. Bruce Lee in his youth was a street gangster. No ****! I am not kidding! He is! Research him. He was a real criminal back then. He was the type of guy back then who will brutally stab a College student to death for no reason and then mock, swear at, laugh at, and threaten his victim's grieving family in court while he'll jokingly ask the judge if his victim's life even mattered.


In China, he lead his own street gang named Junction Street Eight Tigers and they fought against other street punks. One real testament to his criminality was when he and his gang robbed a store. One member of his gang even commited shoplifting. What's worse is that Bruce Lee was not born into an impoverished ****** family. He's the son of rich parents so I really don't understand why he had to resort to criminality as a way to get money. Most of the time, he was the instigator of fights. He's probably some sort of serial bully.


Bruce Lee was a gangster punk in his youth. Basically, the type of guy who picks on YOU shy cowardly loners. Really, he was worse than a school bully. He was a violent thug.


Also, Bruce Lee was popular with girls in his school when he was young. For his whole life, he was never shy, socially awkward, or a loner. He was popular in his young days. He had amazing social skills, charisma, and he was charming to many people. Again, he's basically the opposite of you shy cowardly loners. He was never an underdog. He was the king of high school.


It's really sad for many Bruce Lee fans out there to hear the bitter truth.


In conclusion, Bruce Lee has more in common with the person in high school that pick on you shy loner wimps rather than YOU shy loner wimps. Sorry.


So stop hero worshipping the guy.

Bruce lee invented MMA and never lost a fight. He would wreck you, he could even kill you with the 1 inch punch. If it hits your heart its game over.

[Zaroku]

Bruce lee invented MMA and never lost a fight. He would wreck you, he could even kill you with the 1 inch punch. If it hits your heart its game over.

sweet post !@jaded Please help

what was the name of an amazing poster who died and his sister wrote to Boxingscene?

we need to have a Valhalla where are fellow boxing aficionados are immortalized

[Zaroku]

Bruce Lee was a martial artist first and foremost. And his arms were incredibly long...

tanaka sensei are you Japanese American ?

if you are what kanji do you use?

[billeau2]

lets deal with facts for a moment: the present martial arts landscape has really damaged the credability of martial arts. When Ali was coming along, martial artists trained seriously and had to be on top of their game... Ali was a great benefactor to the martial arts, he was a frequent friend of Richard Chun in NYC, Joon Rhe, and George Dillman, prior to Dillman deciding to go off the reservation with Chi balls.

Now lets talk about Lee: Lee could send a man, braced, holding a pad, of substantial strength and size into the wall with a side kick... the only comparable side kick was Joe Lewis, an Okinawan practicioner who routinely cracked ribs with his mule kick... Kicking alone increases range consdirably. Bill Wallace NEVER lost a match simply because his round kick was so fast no one could make it past the kick...

Lee had all kinds of weapons... His fingers, tactics... Lee was explosive and had incredible speed. Sp Ali, who spent an entire lifetime of spreading sunshine to abolish ignorance understood martial arts, and Lee, because he was a frequent practicioner and patron of the martial arts. In a street fight Lee would be a tough opponent. Watch what happens when a man gets kicked in the head... or when ribs are caved in.

This does not mean Lee was unbeatable... He could be grabbed, perhaps punched, but I implore all the naysayers to deal with someone who knows how to kick... It is like giving a boxer twice his reach. Personally I think Lee would have the hardest time against a Thai fighter and not a boxer. Thai guys could make it past Lee's kick... maybe... maybe. A grappler could also get to Lee BUT it would not be easy considering how fast Lee could move.

If you look at how Lee developed, when he initially fought, guys like Jackman (his big Oakland fight) he learned very quickly that sparring involves "waiting" instead of attacking in the gaps when someone is open. His timing was a BIG part of the development of his art. The timing he used was such that when a boxer went to set, a grappler moved to set up a takedown, or clinch, a Thai fighter launched a round kick, Lee would explode with a powerful technique that had crippling power. and Lee had supernatural speed... He trained speed at least as much as boxers do... So his speed was on a professional level.

People love to denigrate Lee but if you look at people in the martial arts community with some real currency they are almost, if not 100% united that Lee was a fantastic martial artist. Only people who have not seen him, or do not understand what his technical profiency was question his abilities. Like the person who started this thread: I would bet a good deal this person does not know about the reputation of many of Lees students like Insanto... No Dan Insanto does not have a professional record, he only trained many professionals, and only wrote the defining text on knife combat and distance. BUT HE NEVER FOUGHT IN A RING RIGHT!? I mean he probably did but because it was not his focus... The ignorance is amazing.

Lees students were generally fantastic fighters... try having a dojo in Oakland CA in the sixties, seventies and onward... Lee is respected by those who seem to have an educated opinion and experience fighting... That says a lot.

[billeau2]

Bruce lee invented MMA and never lost a fight. He would wreck you, he could even kill you with the 1 inch punch. If it hits your heart its game over.

His kicks were deadly... He could launch crippling leg blows and go right to the head amazingly fast. Bill Wallace was clocked at like 70 miles an hour with his kicks... he may have been as fast as Lee. The thing with kicks is, when combined with finger jabs, explosive punching and body mobility they are dangerous!

I still remember as a green belt walking down the street with one of the teachers in the dojo, he had just gotten out of prison lol! He is showing me something about kicking as we are walking... I set to try it and he smiles, tells me "nope." He wanted me, and taught me to kick while walking, no set up... So now you can catch someone with plenty of range, with no telegraph. Very effective. Lee could launch his kick anywhere, anytime, from virtually any position.

[Marchegiano]

I dunno!

Bil here is a smart fellow, has learned what boxing is, and still believes in kung fu fairy tales. ... Got the cure and still ain't right.

[billeau2]

I dunno!

Bil here is a smart fellow, has learned what boxing is, and still believes in kung fu fairy tales. ... Got the cure and still ain't right.

Listen Bub! Why I oughta give ya my patented double chop suey deluxe! You want extra pork with that?

[Slugfester]

<Lee could launch his kick anywhere, anytime, from virtually any position.>

I heard his sidekick from the toilet was terrible, though he could launch it.

[billeau2]

I heard his sidekick from the toilet was terrible, though he could launch it.

Lol. Ok I should explain.

Martial Artists develop a bad habit of having to set before kicking. this can telegraph and it can allow someone to counter the kick. It is the same with a punch, but harder to get the muscle memory and relaxation to throw the kick without stopping to set the body into some position. As a matter of fact... Classic Bruce Lee: He would launch his kick as a leg check, stop hit when he saw the other guy was setting to kick. What happens is, your stop hit/leg check stops the original kick, then you throw your kick with the same leg, without dropping it at the opponent. Perfect example of Lee's genius: Nobody did leg checks before that, and timing was more primitive as in "you kick and hit me, then I hit and kick you, then rinse and repeat."

The leg check gives yu time to react and pick your target.