Hip Hop is a low artform, and I'm being generous here

[Still Pimpin]

You make some great points, but the only problem i have in the statement i have highlighted is that you're comparing a whole genre of music to just one band.

If you listen to Metallica's 'Ride The Lightning' album, i can reverse your statement and say there is more Creativity in that 1 album then most rappers have in there whole careers. 'Fade To Black' for instance has a deep symphonical sound not to mention a breathtaking guitar solo, as the same in the 'Call of Ktulu', a 9 minute instumental track, with great musical arrangement.

This is followed and is evident in later albums, 'Master of puppets' and '....Justice For All', adding more acoustic melodies.

The reason i am defending the band, is that they are a favourite of mine, and that points in some threads are being contradicted in defending a genre which i highly respect, then putting other genres down in the same manner that if you don't like it....DON'T LISTEN to it.

I didn't mean to pick on one band and I may have over exaggerated a bit, but I think you get the just of what I'm saying.

I've rapped on beats that have had samples from some of Mettalicas music on it so I got no beef with them imp articular just gotta problem with ol' boy insulting my entire culture.

[Verstyle]

I hate rap

[Still Pimpin]

This is a bunch of nonsense here.

Are you even familiar with traditional forms of music?

Let's be honest is anybody in here other than you familiar with traditional forms of music ? If the **** was so much better maybe I'd care a bit but it doesn't move me. This is classic Conservative / ******* debating, you are trying to convince a HIP HOP world that Hip Hop is a low art form (crap).

Question if traditional music is so far advanced why is there not a traditional music section on this forum where you can go and bash Hip Hop all day ?

Instead you have to go to a Hip Hop forum to express your differences in taste because your stuck in the past. Fact is as an aspiring Hip Hop ARTIST myself I appreciate all genres of music and I don't want to be limited to just a Hip Hop selection when I'm rollin'.

Basically if you have a problem with hip hop stay out of the hip hop forums.

[The Critic]

Don't get uppity, boy.

This is an open forum and I will express my views on it.

[Still Pimpin]

Don't get uppity, boy.

This is an open forum and I will express my views on it.

Uppity I've noticed that everytime somebody replies with opposing views you accuse them of getting uppity or mad. Maybe you should calm ya self down lil' BOY.

Chop it up like a man would. I don't care how you feel personally BOY !!!..... but if you diss my culture I will respond and you may not like it...

Now sheeww !!! or make your ****in point BOY !!!

I see listening to traditional music doesn't make you any smarter than rap does because your intellectual side just went out the window.....didn't it lol !

[The Critic]

Uhhhhh did my intellectual side go anywhere?

You wouldn't know what I'd like. You're in my world, playing my games.

I only accused the ignorant ones of getting uppity or mad, the ones who were incapable of discussing a PARTICULAR popular musical form from a wider, more cultured perspective. There were a few exceptions.

And why do you type 'lol' when you're not laughing?

[Still Pimpin]

Uhhhhh did my intellectual side go anywhere?

You wouldn't know what I'd like. You're in my world, playing my games.

I only accused the ignorant ones of getting uppity or mad, the ones who were incapable of discussing a PARTICULAR popular musical form from a wider, more cultured perspective. There were a few exceptions.

And why do you type 'lol' when you're not laughing?

You are sadly mistaken my friend...... I'm truly enjoying this we can debate water vs fire if you'd like but I did get offended by you calling me boy (American History). Any way all bull**** aside do you have any responses to my previouse post on the issue or not ?

Reality check.... it may have been your world at one point in time but I'm here now you can rest now or only suffer the humiliation of continuously being out witted.........

[Still Pimpin]

I'm waiting.........

[The Critic]

I had other **** to do and didn't wait around thirty minutes for you to reply.

Let me tell you this much, if the word 'boy' offended you so easily, you don't stand much of a chance. So cut your losses now and walk on brother man.

[Still Pimpin]

I had other **** to do and didn't wait around thirty minutes for you to reply.

Let me tell you this much, if the word 'boy' offended you so easily, you don't stand much of a chance. So cut your losses now and walk on brother man.

SO I SUPPOSE YOU FORFEIT.

It's funny to me how open you were with you thoughts when you started this thread and now your like a cranky turtle curled up in his shell. I'm not here to offend you I'm just defending my point of views.

You went str8 ********** on me and spun this thing totally off the issue.

Your coming off as one of those smart dumb guys.

If your next reply isn't on the issue I'm out