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    #51
    Originally posted by Scopedog View Post
    The kind of thickheaded jingoism on display in this thread is the biggest reason why America is so hated in the Middle East in the first place. The approach to diplomacy in the Middle East adopted by Israel and the USA under ***** is better suited to the mafia than to ********ic nations.
    Is kind off funny is it not to listen/read it? kind off understandable given the relations between the States and Iran most off the guys on here are from the States...

    Mind you if the tables were turned there would be a huge international outcry/large scale retaliation, in my opinion these assassination's are provocations against Iran be it from the high ranking officer who was killed not so long ago to now the nuclear scientist..

    Iran I don't agree with some off the things their government does/practices against their own citizens which eventually over time will turn into a big revolt if left unchecked or better techniques to deal with problems or situations in general in the nation are not implemented..

    However I did thoroughly laugh hard when ***** aka the Orange man and his various followers/stooges declared the Iranian revolutionary guard as "*********s" I mean how dumbfounded can you be?

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      #52
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
      What does any of that have to do with the statement that Iran is a stabile country?

      And lets pretend this country does not supply *********s, Sandinistas, etc... Lets pretend this country did not murder kadafi... Lets pretend this country does not have dictators in exile all over the place, madam Marcos, etc. Lets not pretend ths country determines "good and bad" news imposed on its citizens...

      And I guess despite that all the United States has never broken a treaty.... you got me there.... OH WAIT!!!! Forgot about how the entire country was farmed out, the Trail of Tears, etc...

      Do not mean to be brutal but think... Think ... THNK!!
      Stable? I didn’t even address that claim. Because frankly, it’s irrelevant. The issue is, does an Iran with nuclear weapons pose a serious threat? That they support *********s with both cash and weapons seems to answer that question clearly. That they broke the agreement regarding specifically nuclear weapons, makes it clear that other than by force, there is no way to stop them from developing weapons.

      The trail of tears? Yeah, that’s relevant I guess to a thinker like yourself.

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        #53
        Originally posted by 4truth View Post
        Stable? I didn’t even address that claim. Because frankly, it’s irrelevant. The issue is, does an Iran with nuclear weapons pose a serious threat? That they support *********s with both cash and weapons seems to answer that question clearly. That they broke the agreement regarding specifically nuclear weapons, makes it clear that other than by force, there is no way to stop them from developing weapons.

        The trail of tears? Yeah, that’s relevant I guess to a thinker like yourself.
        You responded to like one point in the post. the point is everything you accuse Iran of, people can accuse this country of... Go ahead and keep ignoring that fact.

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          #54
          It WAS self defence is you use the Israeli definition of the term...

          Any other definition it would be terrorism / assassination.

          But never forget there are 6 million reasons why Israel has a different moral compass on these matters, right?

          I don't really have a strong position on politics in the Middle East TBH, just pointing out the ridiculous irony here.

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            #55
            Originally posted by man down View Post
            ***in A, why is this even a question. What's worse is the high ups at the CIA are asking this ****** arse question. Like bin laden when we had a couple chances to take him up and did nothing.
            Wake the *** up you sissy ass Americans.
            Actually it was Bill Clinton who had those chances, and yes, he passed on them.


            ********s have been making horrible foreign policy decisions and coddling our enemies since as far back as I can remember.

            God knows how much evil regimes will be emboldened over the next 4 years.

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              #56
              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
              You responded to like one point in the post. the point is everything you accuse Iran of, people can accuse this country of... Go ahead and keep ignoring that fact.
              I'm not ignoring anything. I believe Iran uses the *********s they support as proxies. I think you are naïve if you can't see Iran for what they really are.

              That's the bottom line. If you want the last word, have at it.

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                #57
                I’m good with targeted killings.
                It’s more efficient that just bowing up a lot of bystanders.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                  Many in the Middle East consider the us government to be *********s...it’s all in the eye of the beholder. With all the havoc that’s been perpetrated over there, one could even argue that assessment to be correct from their point of view.

                  Could you imagine the mayhem that would ensue if Iran assassinated an America scientist on US soil? I’m not so quick to justify assassinations on foreign soil when it’s someone who’s part of a sitting government’s regime...this guy was not some rogue ********* like Baghdadi.
                  I agree with this. Take out an American scientist and let’s see whose the *********.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                    Actually it was Bill Clinton who had those chances, and yes, he passed on them.


                    ********s have been making horrible foreign policy decisions and coddling our enemies since as far back as I can remember.

                    God knows how much evil regimes will be emboldened over the next 4 years.
                    Yup, following Cliton, Bush's wars were all GREAT foreign policy decisions. I mean the number of *********s in that region grew exponentially but yeah he scared them straight.

                    Wait did Bush get Bin Laden or was that *****?

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