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Who is the Greatest Female Tennis Playear Steffi Graf or Serena Williams

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    #31
    Michael Chang

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      #32
      Originally posted by MalaysiaPac View Post
      Michael Chang
      Is the greatest ever female player?

      Did you hit that from behind or something?



      Got some bad news for you bud.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Szef View Post
        But what's the point in posting them? I mean other than making people who DSKAT think they matter when, in this particular discussion, they don't.
        I think they matter. If you don't, fine with me.

        Counting them or not, I've posted 10 links where Serena is voted ahead of Steffi. It's pretty clear that within the tennis community Serena is seen as better than Steffi.

        Now in the Lounge, we know why D4th, dramashow and some others are voting Steffi.

        Anyone else like yourself that votes for her without trying to forward an agenda, I have no issue with that opinion but I do disagree with it.

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          #34
          Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
          You really needed to word your question better. I voted on everything combined. Also for me Serena has a slight edge in the level of competition she had to face over her career. Now I'm far from a tennis expert or even much of a fan tbh, so I could be way off base on that.
          Steffi has faced the better opposition.

          Martina Navratilova, Gabriela Sabatini, Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, Monica Seles or Martina Higgins were all great players and ATGs.

          Serena's biggest rival was really her sister, who is a great player herself, but that's really it. Maybe Jelena Jankovic but she was a very good player, not great one.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Szef View Post
            Steffi has faced the better opposition.

            Martina Navratilova, Gabriela Sabatini, Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, Monica Seles or Martina Higgins were all great players and ATGs.

            Serena's biggest rival was really her sister, who is a great player herself, but that's really it. Maybe Jelena Jankovic but she was a very good player, not great one.

            I thought her biggest rival could have been Henin an extremely skilled tennis.

            So tiny but always had Serena scrambling around the court with her skillful shots.

            But she retired at 26

            Many female tennis players in the 2000s retire early for their families and love life.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Szef View Post
              Steffi has faced the better opposition.

              Martina Navratilova, Gabriela Sabatini, Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, Monica Seles or Martina Higgins were all great players and ATGs.

              Serena's biggest rival was really her sister, who is a great player herself, but that's really it. Maybe Jelena Jankovic but she was a very good player, not great one.
              Just an FYI-Serena owns a 7-6 record against Hingis and 4-1 against Seles. Serena also beat Sharapova, who has more majors than Sabatini. Venus has more majors than Vicario and is ranked higher than her all time.

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                #37
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                I thought her biggest rival could have been Henin an extremely skilled tennis.

                So tiny but always had Serena scrambling around the court with her skillful shots.

                But she retired at 26

                Many female tennis players in the 2000s retire early for their families and love life.
                Oh yeah Henin was great too, I totally forgot about her.

                But Venus was better imo.

                Why do I get an email everytime you quote me? Are you a mod or something?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Szef View Post
                  Oh yeah Henin was great too, I totally forgot about her.

                  But Venus was better imo.

                  Why do I get an email everytime you quote me? Are you a mod or something?
                  yes he is, you didn't know that?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Szef View Post
                    Oh yeah Henin was great too, I totally forgot about her.

                    But Venus was better imo.

                    Why do I get an email everytime you quote me? Are you a mod or something?
                    serena is 8-6 in her career v Henin.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      Just an FYI-Serena owns a 7-6 record against Hingis and 4-1 against Seles. Serena also beat Sharapova, who has more majors than Sabatini. Venus has more majors than Vicario and is ranked higher than her all time.
                      Seles and Hingis were past prime when they played Serena though.

                      Especially Monica who first retired in 1993 after she got stabbed and then returned in 1995 but didn't win anything other than Australian Open once.

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