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    #51
    Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
    Mate, I've lived in a ****** country and have lots of ****** friends

    It's only a small fraction of ******s that are nutters and claiming that they want all infidels dead is the equivalent of claiming that all blacks are gang ****ers, all Mexicans are drug mules, etc

    Every ****** that I know hates *********s with a passion because they:

    a. make the world less safe; and

    b. most importantly, give all the peaceful, law abiding ******s a bad name and contravene their understanding of the Quran (basically they're sacrilegious).

    I've also been to Iran and the vast majority of people just want to live peacefully and get on with life

    The religious nutters are the minority

    In Islam, Taqiya or taqiyya (Arabic: تقیة‎ taqiyyah, literally "prudence, fear")[1][2] is a precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[3][4][1][5] Another term for this concept, kitmān (lit. "action of covering, dissimulation"), has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission.[6][7]

    This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecution or compulsion.[3][8] However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.[9]

    Taqiyya was initially practiced under duress by some of Muhammad's Companions.[10] Later, it became particularly important for Shias due to their experience as a persecuted religious minority.[8][11] According to Shia doctrine, taqiyya is permissible in situations where there is overwhelming danger of loss of life or property and where no danger to religion would occur thereby.[8] Taqiyya has also been politically legitimised, particularly among Twelver Shias, in order to maintain unity among ******s and fraternity among the Shia clerics.[12][13]

    Yarden Mariuma, sociologist at Columbia University, writes: "Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a ****** is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie. A concept whose meaning has varied significantly among Islamic sects, scholars, countries, and political regimes, it nevertheless is one of the key terms used by recent anti-****** polemicists."[14] Islamic scholars state that taqiyya is only permissible under duress, and that the inflationary use of the term qualifies as "a staple of right-wing Islamophobia in North America" (Mohammad Fadel 2013)[15] or "taqiyya libel against ******s",[16] while journalist Raymond Ibrahim accuses them of practicing "taqiyya about taqiyya".[15]

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      #52
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
      Why would you think one is OK and the other one isn't?

      Are you consistent and not a hypocrite?

      And the topic at hand is Israel PM says he has proof of secret Iranian nuclear program

      Do you think Iran has the right to defend itself against a hostile enemy?
      Massive lol at anybody who claims that Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons

      It's been an open secret for decades and the hypocrisy of its treatment relative to others is all too evident

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        #53
        Israel has the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and has been dropping plenty of bombs in Lebanon and Syria, not to mention the gunning down of peaceful *********** protesters. It's doing just fine on its own.
        I do find it odd that the documents he presents are written in English though

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          #54
          Originally posted by Hitman Hodgson View Post
          Israel has the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and has been dropping plenty of bombs in Lebanon and Syria, not to mention the gunning down of peaceful *********** protesters. It's doing just fine on its own.
          I do find it odd that the documents he presents are written in English though
          USA, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, let me double check.... I’ll get back...

          But it’s hard to tell, because Israel, is such a small country and needs to be able to properly allocate and place weapons of mass distruction in the right places...

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            #55
            America, Russia, Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan, north Korea and Israel are the nuclear armed states. Although, only the first 5 signed the NPT (Iran also signed it). As the last 4 didn't they're not bound to it, so can't violate it, meaning they're nuclear programmes are legal. Shady AF, but legal

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              #56
              Originally posted by Hitman Hodgson View Post
              America, Russia, Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan, north Korea and Israel are the nuclear armed states. Although, only the first 5 signed the NPT (Iran also signed it). As the last 4 didn't they're not bound to it, so can't violate it, meaning they're nuclear programmes are legal. Shady AF, but legal
              Countries with power, or are on the back side of their glorious empiric years trend to not know it’s time to negotiate with the emerging powers... I’m the same way... I can’t do the things I used to do, physicallly, mentally, or religiously.... getting old is not great....

              I’m gonna semi focus and make my wife my version of French toast... I gotta walk nearly a mile to buy milk, ham, cheese and 10 egs(Japanese do not understand 12 eggs plus one extra egg is a baker’s dozen...

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                #57
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                Why would you think one is OK and the other one isn't?
                I've not stated an opinion on either.

                I've simply asked the assertion Israel has "illegal" nuclear weapons be proved.

                I've challenged anyone to prove this. You replied, but didn't answer the challenge.

                Can you do that?

                After we cover that, I'll be happy to move on and discuss the other things with you and/or answer your questions.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                  These idiots are flirting with a people who got tired of being killed, mistreated, alienated...
                  What's even more crazy, is they've openly said Israel has no right to exist.

                  So they tell Israel they have no right to exist, and they go about trying to build a nuclear weapon. How in the hell do they expect Israel to respond?!?!

                  They seem to forget the Israelis ain't ******, and they've not elected a bunch of people like *****, Clinton, and Kerry to represent them.

                  They chose Bibi for a reason.

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                    #59
                    Has anyone even looked at the presentation here? Yikes.





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                      #60
                      Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                      What's even more crazy, is they've openly said Israel has no right to exist.

                      So they tell Israel they have no right to exist, and they go about trying to build a nuclear weapon. How in the hell do they expect Israel to respond?!?!

                      They seem to forget the Israelis ain't ******, and they've not elected a bunch of people like *****, Clinton, and Kerry to represent them.

                      They chose Bibi for a reason.
                      Thank GOD, no Hillary, *****’s, Clinton ,or other professional politician/ azz clown /ultra *******, fools got elected... I’m ultra right wing... ***** was a joke, a failed experience/**** that cost the USA a lot of money...


                      Ok... **** it... what job, what real work has ***** ever done....nothing... yet he has a Nobel Prize... Nobel was a killer and destroyer... I think we suffer from ignorant idiots who for some reason want to import every uneducated, imbilce form every third world country into the USA... idiots that can’t even ****ing read or write in their own language... whatever that language is... get their **** together...

                      We got enough local lazy people thinking section 8 housing is their birth right...

                      I wasn’t brought up like that... you don’t work, you don’t eat...
                      motivational amti, new deal man here...
                      Last edited by Zaroku; 04-30-2018, 08:48 PM.

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