Portland, OR school shooting - CNN

[SBleeder]

sbleeder:


prolific school shootings are very blatantly a product of easy access to guns.


are you willing to give up some of your access to guns to prevent them?


also, would you send your son / daughter to school with a gun if you could? and do you think that's a good idea?

My access to guns has no impact on school shootings, which are the product of unbalanced individuals, not access to guns. No, I will not forfeit my rights because of the actions of a tiny percentage of people.

When my children are of legal age to carry a handgun (21) then I would support them if they chose to carry in college.

Utah, by the way, has allowed concealed carry on their college campuses for years. The river of blood will be coming any day now, I'm sure, but since they started allowing this, there has not been a single shooting by a permit-holder.

[New England]

My access to guns has no impact on school shootings, which are the product of unbalanced individuals, not access to guns. No, I will not forfeit my rights because of the actions of a tiny percentage of people.

When my children are of legal age to carry a handgun (21) then I would support them if they chose to carry in college.

Utah, by the way, has allowed concealed carry on their college campuses for years. The river of blood will be coming any day now, I'm sure, but since they started allowing this, there has not been a single shooting by a permit-holder.

yes it does, dude. why is your gun ownership separate from the context in which the violence is taking place?


your access to guns is the same access that allows young kids to get guns. there are too many guns in this country. developed countries without so many guns don't have such prolific random violence.

[New England]

so you won't give up your guns to stop kids from being killed?

nutcase, bro. that's what you are. you're sick.

[New England]

I was actually pondering this while reading the thread.

We've all had drunken disagreements with friends that have got out of hand and escalated into heated arguments and sometimes fisticuffs. Only if i was American i'd be going home drunk for my gun, find my friend and kill him. Literally wake up sober very worried having killed my friend drunk.

Does this happen in Fat-Yankistan?.

for a supposedly developed and civilized country, we have a ton of gun violence.

sh#t like that happens all the time, especially in the red states, where they drink a f#ckload and keep the guns loaded.

[fight_professor]

for a supposedly developed and civilized country, we have a ton of gun violence.

sh#t like that happens all the time, especially in the red states, where they drink a f#ckload and keep the guns loaded.

Retrospectively, do you ever wish the Union had simply let the South go?

[New England]

Retrospectively, do you ever wish the Union had simply let the South go?

i wish that quite a few of the contemporary southerners would scram, but we definitely needed those states at the time of the civil war, and still do today.

there was also the business of overhauling an economy based on slave labor. we wouldn't have andre ward, bro, and you know how i feel about the prince.

[fight_professor]

My scheduled PhD has a US focus [as did my MA research] and I am familiar with the US political dynamic and history at quite a deep level and from all that study it strikes me that the old Confederate states still vote a different way and retain a sense of sub-identity devoid of the larger body politic.

[SBleeder]

so you won't give up your guns to stop kids from being killed?

nutcase, bro. that's what you are. you're sick.

How in the blue hell would giving up my guns, which are all secured in my home in biometric safes, stop kids from being killed? Use your head.

[Mooshashi]

My scheduled PhD has a US focus [as did my MA research] and I am familiar with the US political dynamic and history at quite a deep level and from all that study it strikes me that the old Confederate states still vote a different way and retain a sense of sub-identity devoid of the larger body politic.

There would have been enormous consequences of a Union defeat.
Harry Turtledove wrote a series of alternative histories that pointed out
the British support of the South, which is a historical fact. Everything beyond that point is speculative of course, but it certainly would have pushed the USA into the Prussian camp as an alternative to the Brits. This might have led to the USA supporting Germany in WWI....and how that would have changed world history is obvious.

I'm not suggesting Turtledove's books be studied at universities, just that a Union defeat would have changed the world as we know it, and drastically.

[fight_professor]

Oh no, not defeat in war. Just peaceful partition like Czechoslovakia.

As for WW1, 1914 is many decades removed from 1861. Who knows how 40 years would pan out?