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    #21
    Not necessarily, but they're being invaded.
    they dont have a country dude.......Israel is doing what every imperialist country did even king saud of saudi arabia did. get a land thats have no goverment and not a nation...

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      #22
      Defending yourself from an enemy who has caused harm to you is everyones right, but when you bomb civilians who've done nothing to you, you move away from the term defense. Act's like this do get the world to listen, but not the way they were originally intended.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50 View Post
        If you go through history, pretty much every damn group of people that "defines" themselves by race, ethnic group, religious denomination, has been ****ed with by another group. The reason this **** is such a hot button topic? 24 hour media. Internetz. It's the "gotcha" news of our times. Not for, or against any group, when it comes to this matter. But finding the absolute "truth" behind ANYTHING, based on a news group, sorry, what makes group A's propaganda better then group B's?
        I generally make it a point not to discuss politics on the internet, and especially on this site.

        However, I did make the thread (on a whim), so I'll respond.

        First of all, I don't watch cable news, ever. I also try to avoid corporate "news" sources the best I can, because their so-called reports more often than not essentially amount to propaganda.

        An example would be this little gem from CBS (chosen for relevance) regarding *****, who were ********ically elected through elections held at the bequest of the US and Israel:
        ***** forces overran **** in June 2007.
        This is an inaccurate and propagandistic statement, but yet such things are hardly controversial in the US.

        As for the rest of your post, this is a situation which is one of the top-most political issues of the contemporary age. For you to deny this simple fact is for you to deny reality. It also has direct repercussions for the United State's relations in the Middle East, in other words, for the global superpower's relations in the energy capital of the world. This issue is of tremendous significance. Moreover, as I stated previously, given the amount of "support" which the US gives to Israel, and the one-sided approach to policy in regards to Israel, there is truly no neutrality or passivism when it comes to this issue, as so-called "neutrality" realistically amounts to passive support of Israeli policy toward *********, given the status quo.
        Last edited by Drunken Cat; 07-25-2010, 02:06 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
          well id imagine the Islamic ones don't as their religion is non violent.

          well atleast in the eyes of god they have no right to defend them selfs via any form of violence.
          This is a dubious statement. The reality is that the Islamic religion was arguably developed as a militaristic creed. It emerged in the early days of the expansionist Umayyad Empire, and the Koran is awash with references to the "abode of Islam (Dar al-Salam)" and the "abode of the apostates (non-believers)," and there are explicit calls to extend the "abode of Islam" over that of the "non-believers."

          This statement would be considerably controversial, and offensive to some ******s, no doubt about it.

          I respect Middle Eastern society, and Islamic culture, but I have no qualms with questioning theocracy. I mostly regard religion as dehumanizing and destructive ideological discourse, and I find the monotheistic religions to be both historically and contemporaneously the most destructive. That doesn't necessarily apply to the individuals who ascribe to a particular religion, but it most certainly applies to the religions as a whole (most especially, Christianity, Islam, and *******).
          Last edited by Drunken Cat; 07-25-2010, 02:09 AM.

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            #25
            Threads like this force me to never grace others with intelligence/dignity.

            I'd rather spit out the juvenile response I feel more comfortable with.

            Like I'm talking face to face with you etc.



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              #26
              Originally posted by MartinM. View Post
              Defending yourself from an enemy who has caused harm to you is everyones right, but when you bomb civilians who've done nothing to you, you move away from the term defense. Act's like this do get the world to listen, but not the way they were originally intended.
              It certainly helps the Israeli's cause alot. But it's a shame anybody would use terrorism on women and children and any other innocent. But sadly it's justified and somebody brainwashes these bombers into thinking even the children are not innocent.

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                #27
                Originally posted by roxy View Post
                It certainly helps the Israeli's cause alot. But it's a shame anybody would use terrorism on women and children and any other innocent. But sadly it's justified and somebody brainwashes these bombers into thinking even the children are not innocent.
                It's disgusting warfare.

                And what I do know, is there are too many people adopting a fight.

                One they will never contribute to.

                You will go and pass, the Israelis and ************ will be fighting over their land in their holy war.

                You're a fixture.



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                  #28
                  Your voice won't help anything except get a hard working engineer beheaded.

                  Hard working man....................needs PMC Black Rain soldiers just to protect him so that he can get his ****ing job done. Otherwise some animal ****** radicals will kidnapp and behead him on live television.

                  Hard working family man seeking contribution. All that.

                  Needs Mercenaries to protect him from those animals. WTF?



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                    #29
                    Let's discuss those disgusting ****s and their terror tactics while we're at it.

                    They're the lowest. Just the ****ing lowest.

                    Kidnapping and beheading innocent men.



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                      #30
                      Meh, I'm not here to turn a blind eye to say my countries foreign relations are perfect. Nor I'm speaking for the country as a whole, either. My "passive" view about the whole thing, is merely mine. I'd rather have our armed forces come back stateside, and let the whole middle east handle there ancient hatred's towards each other on their own terms, to be honest.

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