Question about the Middle East

[PBDS]

Hahaha, man I am not even going to get into it over this-- it's not even what the thread is about and I was asking for trouble when I got off topic. You have your interpretation and I have mine, and regardless of which is the correct one it is not going to affect society today. So I am fine with each of us having our own views.

....I hear ya man, have a great rest of the weekend.

[NiGe2011]

You too...

[Wizard]

...Wizard, I have a question for both you and Nige. If what we did in Iraq turns out to be the turning point towards freedom in the middle east and say 5 years from now it has brought about the spread of Democracy, then what will be your take on our move? If our actions lead to a domino effect for freedom and democracy and lessens the threat of terror worldwide then I say that nobody could cry about it years from now. That whole region of the world has been ****ed up for years because they have been ruled by dictators and royal families with an iron fist. When Regan took his hard line stance against the Soviets during the cold war all the ******** cried their asses off and bitched and moaned. He had to listen to ***** assed Europeans(who we saved twice by the way) ***** and complain about his actions. Thank god he didn't listen and went his own way and made the hard decisions. It directly lead to the fall of Communism and Berlin wall being demolished. When it's all said and done I believe history will look back on what Bush did very favorably. I could be wrong, but what if I'm right??

Lol, I think that's the biggest longshot. I don't see it happening. Iraq is only one country and things are looking pretty ****ty there. Your admin makes it look like progress, maybe there has been a little with regards to a new Iraqi Gov, but don't be so ****y as to think that your counrty can spread democracy through the middle east. I think it's almost impossible and would take 100 years. The Berlin wall? From what I know east and west Berlin are still very different. Communism was just another reason for the U.S to bend their constitution and thump their chests just like Drugs, terrorism, and a number of other things the U.S has used to forward their hidden agendas.

[PBDS]

Lol, I think that's the biggest longshot. I don't see it happening. Iraq is only one country and things are looking pretty ****ty there. Your admin makes it look like progress, maybe there has been a little with regards to a new Iraqi Gov, but don't be so ****y as to think that your counrty can spread democracy through the middle east. I think it's almost impossible and would take 100 years. The Berlin wall? From what I know east and west Berlin are still very different. Communism was just another reason for the U.S to bend their constitution and thump their chests just like Drugs, terrorism, and a number of other things the U.S has used to forward their hidden agendas.

....Just answer the question and quit spinning. What if it brings about all the things I said?? Then what is your take?

[Wizard]

....Just answer the question and quit spinning. What if it brings about all the things I said?? Then what is your take?

Dude it's not spin!


Ok, I'll say it. If it does happen, which it won't. I would bow ****ing down. I wouldn't question any of your twisted lies and logic, or call conspiracy on anything. would be a drone like you. But it's not going to happen ok. I tell you what, if I'm still a member here if it happens, I will direct every point I ever get to your account. Look at how much money it's taken just to create the image of a safe and ********ic Iraq! The ammount of money to do it to the entire middle east would be so mammoth it's just unrealistic. And that's just to creat the image od democracy, which is all that matters to your admin.

[Bombardier]

Dude it's not spin!


Ok, I'll say it. If it does happen, which it won't. I would bow ****ing down. I wouldn't question any of your twisted lies and logic, or call conspiracy on anything. would be a drone like you. But it's not going to happen ok. I tell you what, if I'm still a member here if it happens, I will direct every point I ever get to your account. Look at how much money it's taken just to create the image of a safe and ********ic Iraq! The ammount of money to do it to the entire middle east would be so mammoth it's just unrealistic. And that's just to creat the image od democracy, which is all that matters to your admin.

If pbds is a drone I wouldn't want to mess with any drones. Have you seen a pic of the guy?

[legend]

Pbds, your not a bad guy but your ****ed-up when it comes to your politics, listen to dude he's very ****ing right.


And about the beer there is a saying up here in Canada. American beer is like making love in a canoe.....it's ****in close to water. I wouldn't go insulting other country's beer because yours sucks. and I've been to a few different countrys tasting too.

I have to jump in about the beer argument. Saying our beer sucks is a little narrow-minded. Imports are probably about as popular here as Budweiser, etc. So popular they they too could be called an "American" flovor of sorts. I personally don't drink Bud, Miller, Michelob, etc. Don't really know anyone who does. So when you say our beer sucks, you're saying most of the world's beer sucks, LMAO.

BTW, my life-long friend is from Toronto. Don't go bragging too much, I know what's up.

[The Troll]

Iraq had one of the highest standards of living in the middleast prior to the Persian Gulf War in 1991 and the sanctions. The thing is the United States and Isreal and other interests did not want Iraq to become a regional superpower by annexing Kuwait which is a historical part of Iraq.

After the Persian Gulf War Iraq went to complete **** because during the war all the critical infanstructure like Highways, water distribution, Power stations, water sanitation centers, were bombed to oblivion, deliterately of course. As of result of the destruction of Iraq's infanstrucre and the sanctoins over 1 million Iraqies died of **** like dissentary, the flue etc... between 1991 and the new war.

If Iraq would have successfully annexed Kuwait they would have defintely become a regional superpower, and been rich as hell controlling such a huge amount of oil resources. Iraq would have had as much oil as Saudi Arabia, and Iraq was not a backward ass country like Saudi Arabia is. In Iraq it was not a law that women had to wear veils etc... Christians and other religions were not persecuted etc... And it was a socialistic semi ********ic country compared to the backward almost absolute Monarchy of Saudi Arabia, Where the Saud family controll absolutely everything. If you do anything in protest of the Saud's in Saudi Arabia you get whipped as punishment and sent to prison even. Saudi Arabia is more of an opressive country now than Iraq was in 1989, However Saudi Arabia did not have need to invade other countries to increase their share world crude oil resources.

By the way the United States does not even get most of its oil from the M-east, most of it comes from Venezuela, Canada, Saudi Arabia is 3rd on the list. But it changes year to year.

And to name the 2nd war operation Iraqi Freedom

[PBDS]

Iraq had one of the highest standards of living in the middleast prior to the Persian Gulf War in 1991 and the sanctions. The thing is the United States and Isreal and other interests did not want Iraq to become a regional superpower by annexing Kuwait which is a historical part of Iraq.

After the Persian Gulf War Iraq went to complete **** because during the war all the critical infanstructure like Highways, water distribution, Power stations, water sanitation centers, were bombed to oblivion, deliterately of course. As of result of the destruction of Iraq's infanstrucre and the sanctoins over 1 million Iraqies died of **** like dissentary, the flue etc... between 1991 and the new war.

If Iraq would have successfully annexed Kuwait they would have defintely become a regional superpower, and been rich as hell controlling such a huge amount of oil resources. Iraq would have had as much oil as Saudi Arabia, and Iraq was not a backward ass country like Saudi Arabia is. In Iraq it was not a law that women had to wear veils etc... Christians and other religions were not persecuted etc... And it was a socialistic semi ********ic country compared to the backward almost absolute Monarchy of Saudi Arabia, Where the Saud family controll absolutely everything. If you do anything in protest of the Saud's in Saudi Arabia you get whipped as punishment and sent to prison even. Saudi Arabia is more of an opressive country now than Iraq was in 1989, However Saudi Arabia did not have need to invade other countries to increase their share world crude oil resources.

By the way the United States does not even get most of its oil from the M-east, most of it comes from Venezuela, Canada, Saudi Arabia is 3rd on the list. But it changes year to year.

And to name the 2nd war operation Iraqi Freedom

....Isn't this crap a cut and paste from another thread????

[Wizard]

I have to jump in about the beer argument. Saying our beer sucks is a little narrow-minded. Imports are probably about as popular here as Budweiser, etc. So popular they they too could be called an "American" flovor of sorts. I personally don't drink Bud, Miller, Michelob, etc. Don't really know anyone who does. So when you say our beer sucks, you're saying most of the world's beer sucks, LMAO.

BTW, my life-long friend is from Toronto. Don't go bragging too much, I know what's up.

If you ask me you can't include imports because they simply weren't brewed in your country regardless of their popularity. Corona is very popular in Canada, I don't consider it a Canadian beer. That's just my opinion I guess.