Omicron now

[Beercules]

Just when people started forgetting about COVID, the unicorn variant emerges lol

If they lock us down again because of this thing I'll be pissed

Enoughs is enough

Right on time for the holidays. People are tired of this.

If you look at the comments on social media its mostly just ''

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No worries you guys can get more jabs in a few weeks. Screw any testing. Oh wait, your the test.

[Citizen Koba]

Man I wish I could look at the world like you do. You think government is here to help you. You seem to think governments can do it better than private industries or something.

Listen you can call Americans crazy conspiracy theories all you want. We've seen enough ***ery to last a lifetime. Our elections were screwed with. The evidence is all there but we just move on. Have you seen the videos of fraud happening while counting votes?

***** was pissing the world off. Fauci came out in 2017 and said on video the admin will have a virus to deal with. ***** was making countries pay up. He was making them pay for security and tariffs ect. He was shutting down the borders and not starting wars. He was making it so congress couldn't work side gigs and make that side money. He was hated for this. He was stopping drugs from coming in. He was going after pedos. We had China on video saying " why can't we control ***** when we've been able to control other US presidents." They had to win this election and how would they do it when all his policies were working? The economy was doing great also.

So you release a virus like Fauci warned would happen and there's no way he could fix it. They tried and tried to make it about ***** but people weren't having it. His rallies were big AF still and millions of people were attending.

So they released this virus. It plays well in two ways. It gets rid of ***** with mail in voting and no IDs and gets everyone back on the climate change BS across the globe. Funding flows to those countries that were shut off before and things would advance to the "new world order" their own words. The goal as gates said is to reduce the population. Why is someone that is for reducing the global population working on vaccines? He doesn't have any business doing this stuff. The Prince Charles video tells us what's really going on and you know it. It's all about climate and the new world order.

The US has the most influence so our politics are very important. We lead, we fund countries, we make policy for the world in many ways. We back countries with our military. ***** was a threat to all that. So when we talk about dems and this virus just understand how our voting has been changed because of it. It just so happens to help the dems that have turned progressive like yourself.
So say what you will but the timing of all this is very suspect at the least. Oh and we just happened to have a vaccine made up in record time lol. People are over it all so new mutations lead to more control. It's really not that hard to see what's going on if you want to look. We've printed 45% of all US dollars in the last 12 months trying to change the politics in this country. If that doesn't make people stop and think then they can't be helped.

I nearly addressed your miscomprehension of my political philosophy on another thread but it seemed like it wouldn't be worth the time or effort cos you ain't gonna comprehend it anyway... Not because you're dumb or anything but simply because our underlying belief systems are so far apart.

I hate to pigeonhole myself but more or less I subscribe to the idea that 'all government is tyranny' loosely a left libertarian (I hesitate to use the term anarchist because people get the wrong idea). I see the entire edifice of partisan representative Democracy to be more or less a facade to give us the illusion that we have some degree of control over the way our lives are run, and that left and right are basically playing the same game. And that includes ***** who I see as basically an opportunist capitalising on public disillusionment but who had no interest or intent in making real change even if he had had the power to do so. FWIW I also believe that the relative decline of the US as a world power is inevitable regardless of who you dudes elect. The problems facing western society a far too deep and fundamental to be address by a few tweaks to fiscal policy or trade protectionism, man, sad to say.


I been exposed to the kinda conspiratorialism you've fallen for from a young age and pretty much understand both the propaganda that was used to get you there and the hooks in you that allowed it to take hold.

You've been taken in by a sophisticated propaganda machine that's no less corrupt than what it trained you to call the 'MSM' but is simply promoting a different set of interests.

And yes, of course the narrative you bought seems convincing to you... That's the point isn't it?

I can go through and dissect each and every part of what you just said, but it wouldn't make the slightest difference because fundamentally we ain't creatures of rationality but are driven by emotion and belief - which is of course why propaganda and advertising (which are pretty much the same thing) work so well.

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I nearly addressed your miscomprehension of my political philosophy on another thread but it seemed like it wouldn't be worth the time or effort cos you ain't gonna comprehend it anyway... Not because you're dumb or anything but simply because our underlying belief systems are so far apart.

I hate to pigeonhole myself but more or less I subscribe to the idea that 'all government is tyranny' loosely a left libertarian (I hesitate to use the term anarchist because people get the wrong idea). I been exposed to the kinda conspiratorialism you've fallen for from a young age and pretty much understand both the propaganda that was used to get you there and the hooks in you that allowed it to take hold.

You've been taken in by a sophisticated propaganda machine that's no less corrupt than what it trained you to call the 'MSM' but is simply promoting a different set of interests.

And yes, of course the narrative seems convincing to you... That's the point isn't it?

I can go through and dissect each and every part of what you just said, but it wouldn't make the slightest difference because fundamentally we ain't creatures of rationality but are driven by emotion and belief - which is of course why propaganda and advertising (which are pretty much the same thing) work so well.

Everyone is still entitled to their own opinions. You're more than welcome to have one still.

You can dismiss what I've said here and that's fine I didn't think you would buy into it anyway. But the facts are all there to understand what's gone on here. I'm not even reaching.

Fauci and his crystal ball.


BTW YOU called yourself a progressive about 3 weeks ago in another topic. That was your label not mine.

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Someone want to explain how we can tweak a vaccine in a few weeks and why we didn't do so for delta?
We've been told that the vaccines don't work as well because it was made for the alpha strain. So why didn't we adjust it for delta? If that's why the vaccines weren't working that great then shouldn't we have adjusted it back then?

[Dakuwaqa]

Someone want to explain how we can tweak a vaccine in a few weeks and why we didn't do so for delta?
We've been told that the vaccines don't work as well because it was made for the alpha strain. So why didn't we adjust it for delta? If that's why the vaccines weren't working that great then shouldn't we have adjusted it back then?

Vacciness can be tweaked quickly (especially mRNA vaccines) but it still takes some time to mass produce them. I think Pfizer said they could do it in 100 days.

The reason why it wasn’t done for Delta is because of the data that was obtained with regards to vaccine efficacy. We found that the current crop of vaccines were highly effective at reducing hospitalisations and deaths.

If we learn the vaccines offer similar protection to Omnicron then an updated vaccine won’t be needed. We’re currently waiting on the data.

Pretty straightforward stuff even for you.

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Seriously, why not tweak it so it could be better?

[man down]

India going after gates.

[Madison Boxing]

uk government- we dont know anything about the virus BUT PUT YOUR MUZZLES BACK ON AND WE WONT HESITATE TO LOCK YOU DOWN IF WE HAVE TO

[Citizen Koba]

Everyone is still entitled to their own opinions. You're more than welcome to have one still.

You can dismiss what I've said here and that's fine I didn't think you would buy into it anyway. But the facts are all there to understand what's gone on here. I'm not even reaching.

Fauci and his crystal ball.


BTW YOU called yourself a progressive about 3 weeks ago in another topic. That was your label not mine.

I do consider myself progressive - or at least I don't object to the label. I just don't consider your ********s to be progressive in any meaningful way.

As to the rest, well. Where you see some good vs bad struggle I just see two sets of competing factions or cliques both with their own sets of interests both with their own propaganda machines and neither considering us anything more than expendable pieces on the board. In this case however the incumbent party / power - call it ******* democracy for want of a better term - has an interest in maintaining stability and order and establishing confidence in us plebs, another faction - call it conservartive populism perhaps, sees it's interest best served by creating instability and reducing confidence in the ruling clique. Either side will say or do pretty much whatever they need tpo in pursuit of their goals.

Facts? Well I've already shown you how most of the 'facts' you've presented turn out to be bullchit upon closer examination, but that doesn't matter cos this isn't about facts but about belief, about narratives. Each of us interprets the information presented us through the lens of our pre-existing beliefs which is why these kindsa discussions go nowhere. But it is what it is.