Omicron now

[TonyGe]

Oh get off your high horse. What about obese, or smokers who got vaccinated? Do they get credit for taking the vaccine from your highness?

I take issue with people who do fcuk all for their health their whole life, but think they're better than others because they took their Covid vaccine like good sheep.

What about healthy people who caught Covid, were asymptomatic or had barely any symptoms, and are naturally immune? What's your issue with them?

I'm a smoker that got vaccinated. I can't smoke in a public place, in a restaurant, in my car if children are present. I pay huge taxes on cigarettes and that's fair. I'm excluded from low rates on supplemental heath insurance on life insurance which is fair. Nobody else should have to take on a burden because I am addiced to smoking. Nobody else should have to breathe second hand smoke. The day is coming where smokers have to pay an extra fee for hospital care if it's determined that the cause is smoking. Yeah I have an issue with heatlhy people that choose not to get vaccinated, carry Covid and spread it to others. Not being vaccinated potentially has a huge impact on the health of others that breathe the same air. That sheep remark is just plain ****** by the way.

[Vlad_]

I'm a smoker that got vaccinated. I can't smoke in a public place, in a restaurant, in my car if children are present. I pay huge taxes on cigarettes and that's fair. I'm excluded from low rates on supplemental heath insurance on life insurance which is fair. Nobody else should have to take on a burden because I am addiced to smoking. Nobody else should have to breathe my second hand smoke. The day is coming where I may have to pay an extra fee for hospital care if it's determined that the cause is smoking. Yeah I have an issue with heatlhy people that choose not to get vaccinated, carry Covid and spread it to others. Not being vaccinated potentially has a huge impact on the health of others that breathe the same air. That sheep remark is just plain ****** by the way.

Vaccinated people carry the virus and spread it. Actually more so since the unvaxxed are restricted from certain places.

Vaccinated people in ICU numbers are actually quite high lately.

As a smoker who’s vaxxed you’re quite preachy about a respiratory virus. I’m not a smoker and I’m unvaxxed. You’re better than me, somehow, because you took an experimental vaccine instead of making a constant effort of living a healthier lifestyle?

And again. VACCINATED PEOPLE CARRY AND SPREAD THE VIRUS.

[Madison Boxing]

I don't live my life in fear. I'm not counting the days till my next vaccination as you claim in another post. However I take issue with people that made the pandemic worse as it evolved by not getting vaccinated.
Did you ever get vaccinated?. Simple question. Yes or no.

its none of your business

[TonyGe]

Vaccinated people carry the virus and spread it. Actually more so since the unvaxxed are restricted from certain places.

Vaccinated people in ICU numbers are actually quite high lately.

As a smoker who’s vaxxed you’re quite preachy about a respiratory virus. I’m not a smoker and I’m unvaxxed. You’re better than me, somehow, because you took an experimental vaccine instead of making a constant effort of living a healthier lifestyle?

And again. VACCINATED PEOPLE CARRY AND SPREAD THE VIRUS.

Unlike you vaccinated people are a lot less likely to spread an agent that cause a severe illness just by breathing on people. Then there is the issue of whether or not Delta or another variant is going to disappear. Deer are infected now with some of the earlier strains of Covid. What will happen is Covid now has an animal repository outside of Asia. It's easy and safe to get vaccinated.

[man down]

Just lol who else has been saying this?

COVID-19: Pfizer head sees a return to ‘normal life’ in the spring

[man down]

Lol look who's waking up.

"tha God is asking questions."

[hectari]

"Covid scientists are increasingly convinced the Omicron variant is acting as a natural vaccine for tens of millions of people around the world as most infected people have no or very mild symptoms, yet their bodies do produce full antibodies.

Many countries are currently seeing record numbers of infections, including the UK, US, most of Europe and Asia, but hospital admissions only show a modest or even no serious increase.

In South Africa, where Omicron was first in November, infection rates are dropping rapidly and most experts believe the Omicron wave and other countries should expect the same cycle in the next few months.

Dr Vishal Sehgal, president of medical services at Portea MeMedical in India, told the Times of India that “Omicron acts as a natural vaccine and proves beneficial as it is less life-threatening.”


A number of experts around the world are convinced the world is currently seeing the tail of the pandemic, based on other virus outbreaks in history.

Dr Namita Jaggi of Artemis Hospitals in India told various media outlets that “pandemics have traditionally speaking petered out by having variants that are milder and less severe till they finally die out.”

“So no, Omicron is not a cause of concern, rather we must optimistically hope that we are moving towards the end of the pandemic,” Jaggi said."

so you say follow the science, but when i follow what the scientists say then im a moron? or is it just a case that i have to follow the scientists that agree with your agenda?

Most articles say there is no such thing as natural immunity and you will need to get vaccinated, on the la county covid alert board they ban people who are pushing natural immunity narratives.

[hectari]

its none of your business

Actually you are not supposed to withold vaccine status it is punishable by many counties mandates, you must reveal status, in order to enter government buildings and stores. If you do not have vaccine prooof you need a negative test thst is at least two weeks old.

[Madison Boxing]

Most articles say there is no such thing as natural immunity and you will need to get vaccinated, on the la county covid alert board they ban people who are pushing natural immunity narratives.

"There is now growing body of literature supporting the conclusion that natural immunity not only confers robust, durable, and high-level protection against COVID-19, but also better than vaccine induced immunity (1-5). Yet most scientific journals, media outlets, self-proclaimed health experts and public policy messaging continue to cast doubt. That doubt has real-world consequences, particularly for resource limited countries. We would like to review available data.

Infection generates immunity. The “SIREN” study in the Lancet addressed the relationships between seropositivity in people with previous COVID-19 infection and subsequent risk of severe acute respiratory syndrome due to SARS-CoV-2 infection over the subsequent 7-12 months (2). Prior infection decreased risk of symptomatic re-infection by 93%. A large cohort study published in JAMA Internal Medicine looked at 3.2 million US patients and showed that the risk of infection was significantly lower (0.3%) in seropositive patients v/s those who are seronegative (3%) (3).

Perhaps even more important to the question of duration of immunity is a recent study that has demonstrated the presence of long-lived memory immune cells in those who have recovered from COVID-19 (4). This implies a prolonged (perhaps years) capacity to respond to new infection with new antibodies.

In contrast to this collective data demonstrating both adequate and long-lasting protection in those who have recovered from COVID-19, the duration of vaccine-induced immunity is not fully known - but breakthrough infections in Israel, Iceland and in the US suggests a few months."

from BMJ

[Madison Boxing]

Actually you are not supposed to withold vaccine status it is punishable by many counties mandates, you must reveal status, in order to enter government buildings and stores. If you do not have vaccine prooof you need a negative test thst is at least two weeks old.

theres no law saying i have to tell people on a boxing forum if ive had the vaccine or not.