Omicron now

[Robbie Barrett]

you owe me an apology

Daily Covid deaths are currently running at less than half the rate expected in a bad flu year, MailOnline analysis suggests as experts claim the UK is finally on the brink of beating the pandemic.

There are growing calls for No10 to learn to live with Covid rather than focus on halting the spread of the virus now there is such a big disconnect between infections and deaths.

Right now just 130 people are dying from the every day in England at what is believed to be the peak of the outbreak, compared to 1,300 last January before vaccines were widely available.


Daily deaths have barely moved since the start of autumn, despite infection rates more than quadrupling over the same time following the emergence of the ultra-transmissible variant.

For comparison, Government estimates show there were more than 400 influenza deaths per day at the peak of the last bad flu season in 2017/18, and almost 300 daily fatalities the previous year. Just like this winter, hospitals were forced to cancel routine operations and patients were told to steer clear of A&E units during both of those outbreaks.

"To work out flu deaths, the UK Health Security Agency — formerly Public Health England — estimates them using a statistical model, which looks at the prevalence of flu and excess winter fatalities.

The Government agency estimates there were between 4,000-22,000 annual flu deaths between 2015 and 2020 in England.

The cumulative number of fatalities was estimated to be in the region of 15,000 in 2016/17, with about 300 people dying every day at the peak.

In 2017/18, during the Aussie flu outbreak, a total of 22,000 people were killed by influenza, with in excess of 400 dying per day at the worst of the epidemic.

But in 2018/19 just 4,000 were estimated to have died to the virus, with just tens of people dying per day at the peak.

Between 2013 and 2020, just 600 people in England and Wales officially had influenza as their cause of death due to lack of testing and difficulty distinguishing the underlying reasons.

The FluMomo model used by the UKHSA picks out periods with high mortality and attributes them to influenza or extreme temperatures."


Estimates and comparing them to the estimated peak. 20k total flu deaths for 5 years. The data cherry picked BS, comparing a full years estimates to 2 weeks.

[man down]

Media, CDC Quietly Admit 3 COVID Truths After 2 Years Of Lies. Did They Think We Wouldn’t Notice?

[man down]

Rand Paul nails Fauci today.

100% agree.

[Citizen Koba]

you owe me an apology

Daily Covid deaths are currently running at less than half the rate expected in a bad flu year, MailOnline analysis suggests as experts claim the UK is finally on the brink of beating the pandemic.

There are growing calls for No10 to learn to live with Covid rather than focus on halting the spread of the virus now there is such a big disconnect between infections and deaths.

Right now just 130 people are dying from the every day in England at what is believed to be the peak of the outbreak, compared to 1,300 last January before vaccines were widely available.


Daily deaths have barely moved since the start of autumn, despite infection rates more than quadrupling over the same time following the emergence of the ultra-transmissible variant.

For comparison, Government estimates show there were more than 400 influenza deaths per day at the peak of the last bad flu season in 2017/18, and almost 300 daily fatalities the previous year. Just like this winter, hospitals were forced to cancel routine operations and patients were told to steer clear of A&E units during both of those outbreaks.

Man, the Mails being a little bit slippery there ain't they? Date on the article is the 10th but they claim the 'latest recent count' is 131 cases daily ... which was indeed the rolling 7 day average on January 1st, but that was not ever thought to be peak Omicron by anyone credible... in fact it's likely to be at least another week or two before we reach peak - and that of course is assuming case numbers continue to fall.

As of January 10th - yesterday - the rolling 7 day stood at 191 which the Mail would have known full well. Factoring in the 379 reported deaths for today will raise the rolling average by (391 - 48)/7 = 49... meaning it's currently standing at more like 240 deaths per day. The Mail knew it was going up man.

Now. That ain't to say that the Omicron surge won't be the a major factor in COVID becoming endemic or the beginning of a return to a 'new normal' but the Mail is being a bit duplicitous here. Like I said to Man Down above there's a strong political element to these kindsa recent stories across the UK press, I shouldn't suddenly drop your cynicism now just because they started saying what you want..

[man down]

Man, the Mails being a little bit slippery there ain't they? Date on the article is the 10th but they claim the 'latest recent count' is 131 cases daily ... which was indeed the rolling 7 day average on January 1st, but that was not ever thought to be peak Omicron by anyone credible... in fact it's likely to be at least another week or two before we reach peak - and that of course is assuming case numbers continue to fall.

As of January 10th - yesterday - the rolling 7 day stood at 191 which the Mail would have known full well. Factoring in the 379 reported deaths for today will raise the rolling average by (391 - 48)/7 = 49... meaning it's currently standing at more like 240 deaths per day. The Mail knew it was going up man.

Now. That ain't to say that the Omicron surge won't be the a major factor in COVID becoming endemic or the beginning of a return to a 'new normal' but the Mail is being a bit duplicitous here. Like I said to Man Down above there's a strong political element to these kindsa recent stories across the UK press, I shouldn't suddenly drop your cynicism now just because they started saying what you want..

Doesn't matter China got something new for us now.

[man down]

This is the hearing today..

Listen to this chit. You can't count a vaccine death if it hasn't been two weeks but now you can?

[man down]

No one? No one wants to talk about this?

[JimRaynor]

I think its safe to say that this pandemic is over, and no amount of masks or mandates will ever eradicate Covid. It will now go down into our history as the newest virus right next to the Spanish Flu as as something we will now endure to the end of time. Luckily data shows its effects will decrease overtime as we acquire wider herd immunity, and the virus hopefully mutates to become even less severe.

[PACnPBFsuck]

My new favorite variant


IHU

[Robbie Barrett]

This is the hearing today..

Listen to this chit. You can't count a vaccine death if it hasn't been two weeks but now you can?

You seem to be misunderstanding. They're saying even deaths that clearly have nothing to do with the vaccine are reported to vaers as deaths after the vaccine. You know how Koba has been explaining this to you for months?