NFL/CFB 2021-2022 Master Thread

[BodyBagz]

Arizona Cardinals star Kyler Murray agrees to $230.5 million deal, is now among NFL's richest QBs, source says



Is he really a 45 mil dollar per year QB ?
100+ mil guaranteed !

Here are his career avgs

Kyler Murray (ROY, 2x Pro Bowler) -
352 comps
527 atts
67 %
3820 yds
23 td
11 ints
32 sacs
94 rating
59 QBR
104 carries
595 yds
5.7 avg
6 tds
6 fums

8-8 .500
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-Compared to-

D Watson (3x Pro Bowler, 1 pass yds title) $230 mil, ALL GUARANTEED -
296 comps
437 atts
68 %
3635 yds
26 tds
9 ints
43 sacs
104 rating
70 QBR
77 carries
419 yds
5.4 avg
4 tds
7 fums

7-6 .538 reg
1-2 .333 post (2 div titles)

L Jackson (MVP, 2x Pro Bowler) will earn $23 mil 2022 -
213 comps
332 atts
64 %
2490 yds
21 tds
8 ints
26 sacs
98 rating
61 QBR
154 carries
918 yds
6 avg
5 tds
9 fums

9-3 .750 reg
1-3 .250 post (2 div titles)

P Mahomes (MVP, 4x Pro Bowler) $500 mil, $141 guaranteed -
382 comps
578 atts
66 %
4677 yds
37 tds
9 ints
106 rating
84 QBR
60 carries
297 yds
5 avg
1+ tds
6 fums

12-4 .750 reg
8-3 post (4 div titles, 2 Conf titles, SB MVP 1-1)

Glad it's not my money. Only one of these guys, so far, has earned it.

[BodyBagz]

RG III
''Lamar Jackson should be 1st $50 mil man. $300 mil fully guaranteed.''



Balt defensive ranks during LJ's career -
2021) 19th (12th in strength of schedule) 8-9 .471 LAST
(They're chalking this up to an injury plagued year...timing is everything)
2020) 2nd (30th in strength of schedule) 11-5 .688 2ND
2019) 3rd (20th in strength of schedule) 14-2 .857 1ST
2018) 2nd (21st in strength of schedule) 10-6 .600 1ST

He has led the league in 1 PASSING STAT, 36 tds.
He is a QB after all.

Pedestrian postseason stats

When the schedule got harder, his td's went down, losses and int's went up.

Wow....Lamar runs so well for a QB (or is he a RB who can throw a lil)

2022, their strength of schedule will be 23rd (the sweet spot for improving stats).

I wonder if RG III did any research

[Comanche]

RG III
''Lamar Jackson should be 1st $50 mil man. $300 mil fully guaranteed.''



Balt defensive ranks during LJ's career -
2021) 19th (12th in strength of schedule) 8-9 .471 LAST
(They're chalking this up to an injury plagued year...timing is everything)
2020) 2nd (30th in strength of schedule) 11-5 .688 2ND
2019) 3rd (20th in strength of schedule) 14-2 .857 1ST
2018) 2nd (21st in strength of schedule) 10-6 .600 1ST

He has led the league in 1 PASSING STAT, 36 tds.
He is a QB after all.

Pedestrian postseason stats

When the schedule got harder, his td's went down, losses and int's went up.

Wow....Lamar runs so well for a QB (or is he a RB who can throw a lil)

2022, their strength of schedule will be 23rd (the sweet spot for improving stats).

I wonder if RG III did any research

Those are interesting stats.

What offense does Baltimore run?

[Comanche]

Arizona Cardinals star Kyler Murray agrees to $230.5 million deal, is now among NFL's richest QBs, source says



Is he really a 45 mil dollar per year QB ?
100+ mil guaranteed !

Here are his career avgs

Kyler Murray (ROY, 2x Pro Bowler) -
352 comps
527 atts
67 %
3820 yds
23 td
11 ints
32 sacs
94 rating
59 QBR
104 carries
595 yds
5.7 avg
6 tds
6 fums

8-8 .500
0-1 post

-Compared to-

D Watson (3x Pro Bowler, 1 pass yds title) $230 mil, ALL GUARANTEED -
296 comps
437 atts
68 %
3635 yds
26 tds
9 ints
43 sacs
104 rating
70 QBR
77 carries
419 yds
5.4 avg
4 tds
7 fums

7-6 .538 reg
1-2 .333 post (2 div titles)

L Jackson (MVP, 2x Pro Bowler) will earn $23 mil 2022 -
213 comps
332 atts
64 %
2490 yds
21 tds
8 ints
26 sacs
98 rating
61 QBR
154 carries
918 yds
6 avg
5 tds
9 fums

9-3 .750 reg
1-3 .250 post (2 div titles)

P Mahomes (MVP, 4x Pro Bowler) $500 mil, $141 guaranteed -
382 comps
578 atts
66 %
4677 yds
37 tds
9 ints
106 rating
84 QBR
60 carries
297 yds
5 avg
1+ tds
6 fums

12-4 .750 reg
8-3 post (4 div titles, 2 Conf titles, SB MVP 1-1)

Glad it's not my money. Only one of these guys, so far, has earned it.

Have you had a look at the overall QB market?

Salaries are going up for everyone. Murray is only highly paid for now.

Soon Herbert, Burrow, Jackson, and Allen will crush this contract.

[BodyBagz]

Those are interesting stats.

What offense does Baltimore run?

Not a fan so I can't say.
If he is worth $50 mil, AA Ron is worth $150 and Brady worth $500 per year.
Mugs getting rich and not really earning it.

[BodyBagz]

Have you had a look at the overall QB market?

Salaries are going up for everyone. Murray is only highly paid for now.

Soon Herbert, Burrow, Jackson, and Allen will crush this contract.

Mahomes even said as much. Todays highest paid will fall in a year or 2.
These QBs who are flashy yet unproven in a way that benefits the team....What has any of them actually done ?

NFL is paying for all those players from yester year who were jerked.
Murray is not worth that money.
Nowhere near it.
But now that he has his money, let's see if he keeps up his end of the ''bargain''.

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Not a fan so I can't say.
If he is worth $50 mil, AA Ron is worth $150 and Brady worth $500 per year.
Mugs getting rich and not really earning it.

Jackson is worth all that and more. He obviously isnt better then Brady or Rodgers, but if you watch Baltimore play you will see that Jackson is everything to that offense. He is their entire system.

[Comanche]

Mahomes even said as much. Todays highest paid will fall in a year or 2.
These QBs who are flashy yet unproven in a way that benefits the team....What has any of them actually done ?

NFL is paying for all those players from yester year who were jerked.
Murray is not worth that money.
Nowhere near it.
But now that he has his money, let's see if he keeps up his end of the ''bargain''.

QBs today have the NFL over a barrel. You either have a very good QB or you are complete trash, and being average is worse then being trash. So it doesnt matter who has proven what. Guys with potential can name their price when its their turn to get paid. Doesn't mean the QBs will earn it (Wentz & Geoff), but you cant afford to not take that chance.

[BodyBagz]

Jackson is worth all that and more. He obviously isnt better then Brady or Rodgers, but if you watch Baltimore play you will see that Jackson is everything to that offense. He is their entire system.

The D wins the games (when the schedule is weak).
He doesn't lose them.
He will no doubt have a comeback season, since they have the 23rd ''toughest'' schedule.
And let me know when he takes them deep into the postseason.

[BodyBagz]

QBs today have the NFL over a barrel. You either have a very good QB or you are complete trash, and being average is worse then being trash. So it doesnt matter who has proven what. Guys with potential can name their price when its their turn to get paid. Doesn't mean the QBs will earn it (Wentz & Geoff), but you cant afford to not take that chance.

There are levels even when it comes to starting QBs.
If a guy is going to demand big money, they better earn it.
By earn it, I mean, where matters most ..W/L column. Having solid, top 5 PASSING stats would also be nice.
In the end, if a GM feel it's in the teams best interest to give a QB a blank check......There are numerous failure stories that they will be added to.