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    Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
    The I was distracted theory isn't going to fly. Nobody is going to buy that.
    The chances of him walking are slim and none and Slim left town on the last bus.
    Not everyone has to buy it, only a juror or 2 have to believe it’s a reasonable argument. People were yelling at them, and needed to be physically pushed back, another guy was saying he’d slap the **** out of them or whatever. That guy was trying to sound like a tough guy by saying he said that and “meant it”, but that only bolsters the defence’s argument. It seems like people are watching these little snippets of the prosecution questioning their own witnesses, and forgetting to watch the cross examination. Viewed that way, it appears really damning, but in the context of the defence building a reasonable doubt case, it isn’t going too badly for them. Remember, they haven’t even presented their case or called their witnesses. [/QUOTE]

    Yeah but then they go back in seclusion and think about what the testimony is from all parties. Then the words of the prosecution aren't as loud in their heads. There would be a lot of pressure on a couple of dissenting opinions by the other jurors. It's possible that they may be able to hold out but in this case. I doubt it. All Chauvin had to do to stop the yelling and protesting was stand up before Floyd's life slipped away. Depraved mind is an apt description IMO of Chauvin in that moment in time.
    Last edited by TonyGe; 04-08-2021, 11:51 PM.

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      Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

      Because they were brilliant scientists, and if the US hadn’t scooped them up, the Soviet Union would have. Many of them worked on our space program during the Cold War.
      Guys like this, we’re top priorities by both the United States and USSR
      Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun (23 March 1912 – 16 June 1977) was a German-born American and . He was the leading figure in the development of rocket technology in and a pioneer of rocket and space technology in the United States.

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        Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post

        You don't think Black American's had brilliant minds, scientists, etc during the same time right here in the state's?

        They weren't given a new identity and integrated as white. That's for damn sure
        I’m sure there were brilliant African American minds, but America & USSR wanted guys that were already ahead of us in actual experience in rocketry and atomic weapons. Even our engineers were not as experienced in actual rocket engine design.

        Having a brilliant mind, but no real actual experience in aerospace engineering and atomic weapons.

        When Mossad targets people for assassination, they go after guys that are not just brilliant, but have actual real life experience and the capability to create nuclear weapons.
        Last edited by Zaroku; 04-08-2021, 11:43 PM.

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          Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

          Not everyone has to buy it, only a juror or 2 have to believe it’s a reasonable argument. People were yelling at them, and needed to be physically pushed back, another guy was saying he’d slap the **** out of them or whatever. That guy was trying to sound like a tough guy by saying he said that and “meant it”, but that only bolsters the defence’s argument. It seems like people are watching these little snippets of the prosecution questioning their own witnesses, and forgetting to watch the cross examination. Viewed that way, it appears really damning, but in the context of the defence building a reasonable doubt case, it isn’t going too badly for them. Remember, they haven’t even presented their case or called their witnesses.
          Yeah but then they go back in seclusion and think about what the testimony is from all parties. Then the words of the prosecution aren't as loud in their heads. There would be a lot of pressure on a couple of dissenting opinions by the other jurors. It's possible that they may be able to hold out but in this case. I doubt it. All Chauvin had to do to stop the yelling and protesting was stand up before Floyd's life slipped away. Depraved mind is an apt description IMO of Chauvin in that moment in time. [/QUOTE]

          I get you, but it’s easier to make the call from the view we all got to see, which is probably why the onlookers were so animated.

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            Originally posted by Zaroku View Post

            I’m sure there were brilliant African American minds, but America & USSR wanted guys that were already ahead of us in actual experience in rocketry and atomic weapons. Even our engineers were not as experienced in actual rocket engine design.

            Having a brilliant mind, but no real actual experience in aerospace engineering and atomic weapons.

            When Mossad targets people for assassination, they go after guys that are not just brilliant, but have actual real life experience and the capability to create nuclear weapons.
            You're justifying harboring ****'s because they were "smart"?

            Aren't you ***ish?

            Do you know how many of our brightest minds have been attacked, marginalized, killed, criminalized and specifically targeted for being "smart"?
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              Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post

              You're justifying harboring ****'s because they were "smart"?

              Aren't you ***ish?

              Do you know how many of our brightest minds have been attacked, marginalized, killed, criminalized and specifically targeted for being "smart"?
              im not justifying what they **** party preached or did to my people.

              ***s had no power to decide whether or not they were held responsible for the crimes against humanity.

              I am saying that our military and top decision makers wanted them alive and got their way.

              The Japanese were conduction similar work on prisoners they were killing with toxins and other evil chit. America got some of those scientists too.

              Look at how many mafia snitches don’t get the death penalty for giving information and providing testimony?

              This kinds injustice goes on all the time.

              If I had my way, hang them.

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                Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post

                It makes a difference because holding someone down is seen as less force than say, striking or using a taser. The fact that a use of force expert said he could have used a higher force option, and acknowledged that using that tactic to subdue someone is the “lesser force” option that most police have been trained to use as opposed to the more forceful options, is going to be meaningful to the defence’s case. It now comes down to the way in which he applied that technique, which appears to be wrong, but I’m not sure it constitutes intentional felony assault unless it can be proven that he was doing it purposefully, as opposed to being negligent.

                The distraction argument matters, because he can say that he felt the need to pay attention to the hostile bystanders over Floyd, who was effectively subdued and not a threat in that position.

                I’m not saying I necessarily agree with these things, but the defence is doing exactly what they should be with witnesses for the prosecution...poking little holes, and planting seeds of doubt with the jury. They haven’t even brought in their witnesses yet. I personally feel like manslaughter would be appropriate, but this guy could very well walk.
                Once again...disagree. And again, not sure why we should keep going through this when we obviously disagree.

                He was talking about using the taser at the point of getting him into the car, not when he was on the ground.

                Once again, the crowd was asking him to get off of his neck. If he was so worried about the crowd, he could have just removed his knee.

                The guy was intending to hurt Floyd. They already showed that he was smashing his fingers together and bending his wrist in a way that would make the handcuffs tighten on his wrists. They have already proven that he should have known to stay off of the guy's neck. The guy was telling him that he was hurting him and he ignored it. If I were doing something to hurt you, and you told me so, and I continue to do it. What do you think that means?


                Of course the defense attorney is doing what he can do. It's all he can do. But how do you see this as manslaughter instead of murder? Give me a break. Muhammad Noor was "negligent" when he fired a shot into the dark that killed that white woman then...but he is in prison for 3rd degree murder. You are now focusing on the intent for assault with regards to 2nd degree murder and skipping over 3rd degree murder to shoot for manslaughter. Seems like you want this guy to get off with the least amount of years as possible for some reason. Sure we haven't gotten to the defense's witnesses yet, but it has taken a beaten from Chauvin's own fellow officers, superiors, and the best witnesses thus far who disproved the fentanyl defense yesterday. Yet day after day you come back with a defense of the defense. It's mind boggling.
                Last edited by travestyny; 04-09-2021, 01:25 AM.

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                  Blacks have statistically the lowest IQ of all races, with Asians scoring highest.

                  If I'm right this is no indication of the potential to succeed in academia, more a way of analytical thinking or problem solving.

                  On the flip side, blacks are very athletic and have a lower aggression threshold.

                  So in conclusion, different races are predisposed to perform differently in certain areas.

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                    LOL at this point i am in two minds the prosecution team are either trying to throw this and get Chauvin off.. OR they just don't have much to work with (probably this)

                    Don't let superfans/media fool you it has not gone well despite the many headlines claiming otherwise

                    There is significant doubt now on what killed Floyd.. or if Chauvin even had his knee on his neck

                    At this point we already know Floyd took a load of drugs.. he had also most likely just done another deal with his dealer and then the police caught up to him and he probably swallowed a bunch more so he didn't get in more trouble

                    It was even said given the situation Chauvin would have been ok to taze him.. and given the condition Floyd was in due to drug abuse.. how do you think he would have ended up?

                    The media/'superfan analysis/coverage that this dude was a massive racist just going out of his way to randomly kill a black man.. has already fallen apart (not that it will matter to those people).. was Chauvin incompetent/didn't handle things great sure you can argue that and i'd agree for the most part.. but to act like this was cold blooded murder is ******ed

                    Having said that i feel for the jurors.. even if they acquit him of only some charges.. i'd expect these antifa/*** nutjobs to track them down somehow and make their lives miserable.. they're in a no win situation

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                      floyd died of a drug overdose

                      yall getting played

                      if floyd never happened the MSM would have just found another black criminal death to hype up. Floyd was just a pawn during an election year

                      come back in 2024 for the next wave of riots and white career politicians pretending to care about black people

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