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    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    Germany has rarely been knocked out cold and left people crying over the devastating finality of their defeat. At least I don't think they have.?
    Nah, never...



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      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      Germany has rarely been knocked out cold and left people crying over the devastating finality of their defeat. At least I don't think they have.



      So how many times does one team have to beat another in your eyes, before you can admit that they are better?
      England beat Germany 5-1 .......in Germany ...and to rub salt into the wound emile heskey scored a beautiful goal

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        Originally posted by BennyST View Post
        It doesn't actually work that way. You have to take into account all matches across the board. A teams ranking isn't decided by matches against only one side.
        Could it simply be a matter of Sunderland being better than Chelsea but being worse than the rest of the league? It's like how JMM has Pacquiao's number but can't beat Floyd or Tim Bradley

        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        A team is better when they have better players and a better squad.
        If they can't beat another team then they aren't better than them. The actual results of games have to count at some point don't they?

        Originally posted by jas View Post
        England beat Germany 5-1 .......in Germany ...and to rub salt into the wound emile heskey scored a beautiful goal
        I stand corrected then. Was it during a meaningful game or just a friendly?
        Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 07-10-2014, 01:58 PM.

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          Fred against Germany.

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            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            Could it simply be a matter of Sunderland being better than Chelsea but being worse than the rest of the league? It's like how JMM has Pacquiao's number but can't beat Floyd or Tim Bradley

            If they can't beat another team then they aren't better than them. The actual results of games have to count at some point don't they?

            I stand corrected then. Was it during a meaningful game or just a friendly?
            Oh jesus.. /insert standard facepalm gif..

            Yes Sunderland are better then Chelsea
            Last edited by San Iker jr; 07-10-2014, 02:24 PM.

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              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              Could it simply be a matter of Sunderland being better than Chelsea but being worse than the rest of the league? It's like how JMM has Pacquiao's number but can't beat Floyd or Tim Bradley



              If they can't beat another team then they aren't better than them. The actual results of games have to count at some point don't they?



              I stand corrected then. Was it during a meaningful game or just a friendly?
              Yanks

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                Originally posted by Luiz View Post
                Fred against Germany.

                Fred is atrocious. And incredible that Scolari kept him on after the first half. Shouldn't have been there at all.

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                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                  Could it simply be a matter of Sunderland being better than Chelsea but being worse than the rest of the league? It's like how JMM has Pacquiao's number but can't beat Floyd or Tim Bradley



                  If they can't beat another team then they aren't better than them. The actual results of games have to count at some point don't they?



                  I stand corrected then. Was it during a meaningful game or just a friendly?
                  It wasn't a friendly

                  Maybe a group qualifying game

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                    It's official! :wank:

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                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      It's official! :wank:
                      Good to see Arsenal have woken up and realized they need to buy in order to compete vs money bags City/Chelsea.. Least it's your own money

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