Football Soccer Football Soccer Football Soccer

[Dynamite Kid]

Well i rate Park as a very good midfielder that's the sum of it really guy has come through for us quite a few times. As of right now i'd take him over the other 2 when Rosicky is back fit and had a long run of games or Nasri is a little older i would probably think differently. That's just my opinion

On another note if i was Guardiola (sp?) i would not be playing Henry after these kinda comments

Whenever there is a draw for the Champions League I'm in pain," he told Sky Sports.

"I'm not saying I won't try to fight or whatever because that's the way the game is. But I don't want to play against Arsenal.

"It will be weird for me to step on the pitch, even if it's at the Emirates and not Highbury, with another shirt on."

When asked if he would celebrate a goal, he added: "Forget about it. No. I do not want to play against Arsenal, simple as that.

WOW they are a bit controversial, Thierry is too honest sometimes, accept when he is playing against the Oirish of coarse Lol

You gotta love it when a former player nails his colours to the mast like that, im sure you would appreciate that and have in the past when a United fans has still shown his allegiance to your club, its refreshing giving the amount of mercenaries in the game, although not a smart move by Henry.

Vieira was and still is my favourite player of all time but i always knew he would have no qualms over joining City, or even Tottenham for that matter , this is a guy who chose to play for France despite being Sengalize and flogged his ass season after to season to any suitor's who were interested so he could get a payrise, great player but no morals, Thierry is a little different imo, although you could argue he also held Arsenal to ransom one year, nah all in all Henry is a great guy who i have a lot of respect for.

[Chunk..]

That's not true because he's been getting better all this season. Of course he will get better if he is played in every game. You can see he is still improving his game if you watch him.

And as for the world class players debate, i'll take Fabregas from Arsenal but other than that i'd have the rest of the United team. Man for man United have more than Arsenal for World Class.

What i saw yesterday was the same Park i saw last season and the season before that. Workhorse, gets in good areas and plays well in big games.

He's gonna be the same in the next game as well. He isn't gonna get any better then he is now.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

WOW they are a bit controversial, Thierry is too honest sometimes, accept when he is playing against the Oirish of coarse Lol

You gotta love it when a former player nails his colours to the mast like that, im sure you would appreciate that and have in the past when a United fans has still shown his allegiance to your club, its refreshing giving the amount of mercenaries in the game, although not a smart move by Henry.

Vieira was and still is my favourite player of all time but i always knew he would have no qualms over joining City, or even Tottenham for that matter , this is a guy who chose to play for France despite being Sengalize and flogged his ass season after to season to any suitor's who were interested so he could get a payrise, great player but no morals, Thierry is a little different imo, although you could argue he also held Arsenal to ransom one year, nah all in all Henry is a great guy who i have a lot of respect for.

Your right it's nice as a fan to hear that stuff, on the Vieira bit i think he honestly hurt Arsenal alot with the constant transfer talk about him going to Real Madrid for what must have been 2-4 seasons?

[Dynamite Kid]

Your right it's nice as a fan to hear that stuff, on the Vieira bit i think he honestly hurt Arsenal alot with the constant transfer talk about him going to Real Madrid for what must have been 2-4 seasons?

on the Vieira bit i think he honestly hurt Arsenal alot with the constant transfer talk about him going to Real Madrid for what must have been 2-4 seasons?

Yeah that was proper ****ish.

I dont think Henry ever wanted to leave Arsenal he just became disillusioned with Wenger's transfer policy. Henry was devastated when he found out we sold Vieira and i think that was the reason he waited a whole season to sign a new contract, he wanted assurances that Wenger was going to make the necessary signings to take us back to the level we were at. It seemed by the time Henry decided to stay (after the Barca game) that Wenger looked at his age and tried to be to clever for his own good, shipping out so many experienced players at one time, he was prolly thinking if i am going to sell Henry then its best to sell him now whilst he still has a decent resale value because as he gets older his form will suffer slightly and he wont be worth as much, problem with that is we prolly would of won something in the last 5+ years if the likes of Gilberto, Henry etc had stayed in the side, Wenger ***ed up big time, look at Scholes, Giggs, they are still useful players for United even now, particularly Giggs.

[HitmanHattonAY]

Newcastle United Back in the Premier League !!

[Joe2608]

Jesus christ this kid is frighteningly biased, or maybe he actually believes what he is saying because he has deluded himself into thinking that way.

Arsenal play the way they do because their players are technically more gifted than United's, how ****** are you, do you honestly think you have world class players outside of Rooney, Vidic, possibly Ferdinand, maybe, VDS, Evra ? none of the United midfield are world class and if you think they are you should stop watching Football right now.

He buys smartly meaning he doesn't spend ****s loads of money on the biggest names in football he buys players who are good but who will fit into the team nicely.

Thats just pure idiocy right there, Ferguson tried to be cute in the transfer market and he signed the likes of Djemba Djemba, Bellion, Kleberson, Richardson, Miller. Since getting his fingers burnt he went back to buying high profile players for large amounts of money........Rooney 27 mil, Berbatov 30 mil, Nani + Anderson 30 mil, Carrick 17/18 mil, Hargreaves 18mil, Valencia 16 mil.

Do you know Arsenal were gonna buy Carrick for 3 mil because they had just got shot of Vieira and that they only reason we did not is because Cesc had stepped up his game and was maturing quicker than expected ?

Your embarrassing yourself with your football knowledge.

Our whole defence and goalkeeper is better that's a no brainer. Midfield isn't our strongest but if you'd take Song over Fletcher or Denilson over Carrick then you are crazy. Even past prime Scholes have been great for us this season and rival your midfield. I wouldn't want any of Arsenal's strikers in my team, let alone take them over Berbatov or Rooney.

And as for Rosicky and Nasri, we equal them easilly with Valencia/Giggs/Park/Nani.

Also, by todays standards of cash being thrown around our players were bargains and they have paid us back with silverware. Paying **** all for players is good if it pays off, but Arsenal's players have not delivered any silverware.

[Savino]

Newcastle United Back in the Premier League !!

Hope they go straight back down

[Dynamite Kid]

Our whole defence and goalkeeper is better that's a no brainer. Midfield isn't our strongest but if you'd take Song over Fletcher or Denilson over Carrick then you are crazy. Even past prime Scholes have been great for us this season and rival your midfield. I wouldn't want any of Arsenal's strikers in my team, let alone take them over Berbatov or Rooney.

And as for Rosicky and Nasri, we equal them easilly with Valencia/Giggs/Park/Nani.

Also, by todays standards of cash being thrown around our players were bargains and they have paid us back with silverware. Paying **** all for players is good if it pays off, but Arsenal's players have not delivered any silverware.

Well even though id say United's back line perform better as a unit i dont necessarily agree that there is much difference between some of the players man 4 man, is there much difference between the likes of Sagna and Brown/Neville, infact id take Sagna over both, Evra is better than Clichy but not by a huge margin, he still gets ****ed himself from time to time against a good wingers, not to mention Clichy is being judged on the form he is in now after just coming back from an injury which is obviously not reflective of the player at his best, however like i said Evra is the better LB.


Vermaelan or Ferdinand, Id take Vidic over any Arsenal defender but Verm vs Ferdinand is a pick em. Vermaelan has held Arsenal together at the back on his own.


The GK is a no brainer but the main difference between Arsenal's defence and United's is the cohesion between them, Arsenal play this very risky high line that leaves them exposed a lot of the time, they dont drill the players and use a specialist defensive coach, and it shows, they have a GK that transmits panic to the defenders because he is a clown, basically United's back line perform better as a unit because of how the manager sets them up/prepares them up, not to mention the calming influence of a good GK, however man 4 man its quite clearly not as cut and dry as your making out, your clear biased can obviously be attributed to that though. Im willing to concede United have a better backline but again im not ****** enough to think its because United have better defenders across the board man 4 man, although the GK, Vidic, Evra are better.


Song over Fletcher or Denilson over Carrick then you are crazy. Even past prime Scholes have been great for us this season and rival your midfield. I wouldn't want any of Arsenal's strikers in my team, let alone take them over Berbatov or Rooney.

Fletcher is slightly better than Song, although not by much, you see thats the problem i have, you think Fletcher is so good that he is head and shoulders a better player than Song when he is not, anyone would think Fletcher is on the level of Cesc the way you speak of how much better he is than Song Lol. Fletcher runs around like Ivor the engine and gets away with it because United dont play like Arsenal, put Fletcher in the Arsenal side that throws men foward and lets see him vacate his position for Arsenal the way he does for United, he would expose the Arsenal defenders to wave after wave of attack, Song maintains his position and does a different job, he is strictly a DMF who holds his position because he has to, Arsenal are so offensive that he cant run around like Fletcher vacating his position, botton line is which ever player you see as the better player its not sufficient to say that if you dont think Fletcher is better your crazy, simply because neither is that much worse or better than the other.


I see you did not compare Cesc to anyone of your midfielders because he is head and shoulders above any of them.

Forget Denilson, Diaby is better than Carrick.

Lol like Berba is a hit.

You are acting like you have already won this years Prem with the current side and that, that is reflective of how man 4 man your better, only Arsenal are right on your tail despite losing their primary striker for almost the whole season, i would love to see where United would be without there primary striker (Rooney), not top of the league thats for sure, and we are still in contention to win the league give or take a few points, that is the huge gap between your world class players that are head and shoulders above the likes of Song etc Lmao.



Also, by todays standards of cash being thrown around our players were bargains and they have paid us back with silverware.

Weak. A climb down because i made your comment look idiotic. Carrick a bargain at 17 mil Lol, Valencia at 16 Lol, Berba at 30 Lol, they also paid you back with a 700 mil debt because you paid so much! for them.


You talk some **** you do.

[AssasinKing]

What i saw yesterday was the same Park i saw last season and the season before that. Workhorse, gets in good areas and plays well in big games.

He's gonna be the same in the next game as well. He isn't gonna get any better then he is now.

Exactly, this all started with me talking about park being a great player, and he is...

Precisely, these idiot United fans would have you believe that their team is full of quality and thats why they have guys like Park on the bench who would walk into Arsenal's side ahead of Nasri/Rosicky Lol, talk about deluded.

Its exactly as Chunk said it, United are playing well as a team, are they a million miles better than Arsenal man 4 man? no, but they do have a tighter defense and a manager who's bread a butter is inspiring his players when the title hots up.

This guy gets so hyped up on his own comments, he forgets whos making the statements.....United IS full of quality, its obvious....Park hasnt been on the bench for a run of games now, what is your point? And if he is on the bench, again, what is your point? Its a big squad, with players who can fit in anywhere....do you think in football now adays its just a starting 11 with no subs or players that can be left completely out of games....United play well as a team + have great individuals....why the hell do you think they win, Birmingham play well as a team, do they have great individuals? Not really, thats why they are where they are.... And are they a million miles better then arsenal? No, who said that? Just because i would pick Park over rosicky and nasri (your talking about Nasri being 22...yes, thats great, but i would pick park right now, obviously when nasri is older he will probably be better then park, but that wasnt the debate)

Put it this way, if the likes of Fletcher and Park left Man Utd, they wouldn't go to another club the size of Man Utd (Like Barcelona, Milan or other European giants) They would end up somewhere like Aston Villa or Everton AKA Phil Neville.

They're good players, don't get me wrong but they ain't world class.

And if they left united, Its obvious they wouldnt go to a huge club, possibly fletcher would get into another great club, but park is 29....hes not getting any younger and as good a player as he is....people dont want players coming to their 30's unless they were really that special....


Also Dynamite....Funny how you always say i just watch MOTD and read newspapers and say what they say, did you manage to watch MOTD yesterday? My post on here was talking about Park being the Unsung Hero...exactly that, and what happens....MOTD comes on with the exact same title for the clips they show, and who do they talk about...park...so go suck something lol

[Dynamite Kid]

This guy gets so hyped up on his own comments, he forgets whos making the statements.....United IS full of quality, its obvious....Park hasnt been on the bench for a run of games now, what is your point? And if he is on the bench, again, what is your point? Its a big squad, with players who can fit in anywhere....do you think in football now adays its just a starting 11 with no subs or players that can be left completely out of games....United play well as a team + have great individuals....why the hell do you think they win, Birmingham play well as a team, do they have great individuals? Not really, thats why they are where they are.... And are they a million miles better then arsenal? No, who said that? Just because i would pick Park over rosicky and nasri (your talking about Nasri being 22...yes, thats great, but i would pick park right now, obviously when nasri is older he will probably be better then park, but that wasnt the debate)


Also Dynamite....Funny how you always say i just watch MOTD and read newspapers and say what they say, did you manage to watch MOTD yesterday? My post on here was talking about Park being the Unsung Hero...exactly that, and what happens....MOTD comes on with the exact same title for the clips they show, and who do they talk about...park...so go suck something lol

United play well as a team + have great individuals....why the hell do you think they win, Birmingham play well as a team, do they have great individuals? Not really, thats why they are where they are.... And are they a million miles better then arsenal? No, who said that? Just because i would pick Park over rosicky and nasri (your talking about Nasri being 22...yes, thats great, but i would pick park right now, obviously when nasri is older he will probably be better then park, but that wasnt the debate)



Having big squad does not equal a strong first 11, not if the players in the team are only marginally better than whats on the bench. great! individuals? Rooney is the only great offensive player United have.




The whole point of my saying you co-sign what the newspapers and media say was meant as a derogatory comment, meaning they (media)dont know what they are talking about half the time and only want to push their own! opinion on you rather than reporting what actually happened, and that idiots like you are the ones who regurgitate that **** because their too ****** to form their own opinion. See you just tried to make light of my apparent inconsistency but made yourself look a complete idiot because you have once again regurgitated what some idiots on MOTD have said to make your point Lol.