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[Big Vern]

Precisely, these idiot United fans would have you believe that their team is full of quality and thats why they have guys like Park on the bench who would walk into Arsenal's side ahead of Nasri/Rosicky Lol, talk about deluded.

Its exactly as Chunk said it, United are playing well as a team, are they a million miles better than Arsenal man 4 man? no, but they do have a tighter defense and a manager who's bread a butter is inspiring his players when the title hots up.

It's all about efficiency, my friend. United only have 5 (to Arsenal's 2) real world class players in their strongest starting 11. Van der Sar, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand and Rooney (a case could also be made for Owen Hargreaves when at his best). It doesn't matter about player for player, it's about getting the right mix. Arsenal play good football, sure. It don't count for **** when you're not winning anything though.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Its not so much you but the other idiots, i know your not ****** and can be honest about your team, although you do like to have a dig at Arsenal sometimes Lol

Id agree with that above give or take Verm, who i rate.

You got too tho if there was active Liverpool fans they would get it alot worse that French **** probably offed himself after Liverpool after there 10th loss this season.

[Joe2608]

I didn't say they were world class either. They do however process more natural ability then Park. Especially Nasri, who at 22 can still be classed as a up and comer learning his trade. He has world class potential.

Park is 29, and isn't gonna get any better then he is now.

That's not true because he's been getting better all this season. Of course he will get better if he is played in every game. You can see he is still improving his game if you watch him.

And as for the world class players debate, i'll take Fabregas from Arsenal but other than that i'd have the rest of the United team. Man for man United have more than Arsenal for World Class.

[Joe2608]

Also, i'd argue that Arsenal play more as a team than United, you can see they are more of a close unit and it is evident by their passing ability and style of play.

Reason why United win things is because we have more experience, more world class players and the best manager of all time.

Sir Alex has a winning mentality and knows the game so well. He's seen every result so nothing surprises him or gets the better of him. Most importantly he knows how to handle big players and will sort them out if they step out of line. He buys smartly meaning he doesn't spend ****s loads of money on the biggest names in football he buys players who are good but who will fit into the team nicely.

[Dynamite Kid]

That's not true because he's been getting better all this season. Of course he will get better if he is played in every game. You can see he is still improving his game if you watch him.

And as for the world class players debate, i'll take Fabregas from Arsenal but other than that i'd have the rest of the United team. Man for man United have more than Arsenal for World Class.

Also, i'd argue that Arsenal play more as a team than United, you can see they are more of a close unit and it is evident by their passing ability and style of play.

Reason why United win things is because we have more experience, more world class players and the best manager of all time.

Sir Alex has a winning mentality and knows the game so well. He's seen every result so nothing surprises him or gets the better of him. Most importantly he knows how to handle big players and will sort them out if they step out of line. He buys smartly meaning he doesn't spend ****s loads of money on the biggest names in football he buys players who are good but who will fit into the team nicely.

Jesus christ this kid is frighteningly biased, or maybe he actually believes what he is saying because he has deluded himself into thinking that way.

Arsenal play the way they do because their players are technically more gifted than United's, how ****** are you, do you honestly think you have world class players outside of Rooney, Vidic, possibly Ferdinand, maybe, VDS, Evra ? none of the United midfield are world class and if you think they are you should stop watching Football right now.

He buys smartly meaning he doesn't spend ****s loads of money on the biggest names in football he buys players who are good but who will fit into the team nicely.

Thats just pure idiocy right there, Ferguson tried to be cute in the transfer market and he signed the likes of Djemba Djemba, Bellion, Kleberson, Richardson, Miller. Since getting his fingers burnt he went back to buying high profile players for large amounts of money........Rooney 27 mil, Berbatov 30 mil, Nani + Anderson 30 mil, Carrick 17/18 mil, Hargreaves 18mil, Valencia 16 mil.

Do you know Arsenal were gonna buy Carrick for 3 mil because they had just got shot of Vieira and that they only reason we did not is because Cesc had stepped up his game and was maturing quicker than expected ?

Your embarrassing yourself with your football knowledge.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

I'd say Evra, Vidic, Rooney, Ferdinand (when not injured) and VDS probably could make a good fight as the top players for that position (I did not say best!). The midfield is United's weak link it's true we lost to Barca due to it last year imo. Giggs/Scholes maybe former great players but even when playing well nowdays they don't stand up too the likes of Inestia/Xavi.

My issue is with people acting like Rosicky/Nasri are crazy good Sure they have excellent skills but so does Berbatov and Nani to an extent. But they don't do it on a regular basis (from what i have seen). So i would still swap them for a slightly less talented but more consitant players like Tevez.. even if he is similar to Rooney.

Berbatov has been a pretty huge failure imo so far, you pay 30 million for a player which doesn't start a single game vs the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or the tough teams in the CL?

[Dynamite Kid]

I'd say Evra, Vidic, Rooney, Ferdinand (when not injured) and VDS probably could make a good fight as the top players for that position (I did not say best!). The midfield is United's weak link it's true we lost to Barca due to it last year imo. Giggs/Scholes maybe former great players but even when playing well nowdays they don't stand up too the likes of Inestia/Xavi.

My issue is with people acting like Rosicky/Nasri are crazy good Sure they have excellent skills but so does Berbatov and Nani to an extent. But they don't do it on a regular basis (from what i have seen). So i would still swap them for a slightly less talented but more consitant players like Tevez.. even if he is similar to Rooney.

Berbatov has been a pretty huge failure imo so far, you pay 30 million for a player which doesn't start a single game vs the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or the tough teams in the CL?

My issue is with people acting like Rosicky/Nasri are crazy good


I hope your not going to try and flip this around, the issue is with Park being rated higher than he should be not Rosicky/Nasri, they were brought up as comparison of whom Park was apparently better than, please dont start making out its because people are overeating Rosicky/Nasri just because some people think they ARE! better than Park.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

My issue is with people acting like Rosicky/Nasri are crazy good


I hope your not going to try and flip this around, the issue is with Park being rated higher than he should be not Rosicky/Nasri, they were brought up as comparison of whom Park was apparently better than, please dont start making out its because people are overeating Rosicky/Nasri just because some people think they ARE! better than Park.

Well i rate Park as a very good midfielder that's the sum of it really guy has come through for us quite a few times. As of right now i'd take him over the other 2 when Rosicky is back fit and had a long run of games or Nasri is a little older i would probably think differently. That's just my opinion

On another note if i was Guardiola (sp?) i would not be playing Henry after these kinda comments

Whenever there is a draw for the Champions League I'm in pain," he told Sky Sports.

"I'm not saying I won't try to fight or whatever because that's the way the game is. But I don't want to play against Arsenal.

"It will be weird for me to step on the pitch, even if it's at the Emirates and not Highbury, with another shirt on."

When asked if he would celebrate a goal, he added: "Forget about it. No. I do not want to play against Arsenal, simple as that.

[Texanballer]

What happened to Joe Cole? I read Chelsea wants to get him out.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

What happened to Joe Cole? I read Chelsea wants to get him out.

Long ass injury layoff sadly he hasn't got back to form yet and the Manager doesn't seem to be a huge fan of him.

Saw it in Gary Neville too rarely people come back and perform as good after 1 + year injuries, i hope Hargreaves comes back and reaches the form he had in the Euros/Brief time at United but i doubt it.

Shame really guy could be very useful for England if he gets picked