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[HitmanHattonAY]

yes i would have done aswell lol

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3 league goals. The boy is unstoppable!!!

Aye, 2 more than Rooney.

[El Fenomeno]

Aye, 2 more than Rooney.

4 less than king Carlos

[Flab]

darren bent > andy carroll

5-1.
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[El Fenomeno]

5-1.
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How many goals did Carroll score in that game? And how many did Bent get?

Thank you and goodnight.

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4 less than king Carlos

Only 2 less than Torres.

[Joe2608]

Joe, I think you were one of the ones coming down on Capello after the WC, whilst people like me were trying to stick up for him. It probably wont, but the media control that side of things, not the fans. I dont think the players that took to the field should be criticized per say, I just think it HL's a bigger problem, one we have had for over 40's, that we still!! haven't addressed, and that is that our players are not technically good enough to compete with the best, I mean its okay saying France had a better side, but did you watch that game? England could not string 2 passes together, they looked like they had been given a hot potato when ever someone passed the ball to them, infact at times, it was like watching a bunch of semi pro's vs bunch of professional players. The only thing England has to look foward to, is that we have a couple of gems coming through, Rodwell, Wilshere, and the kid from Chelsea, who are all technically good.

The FA need to do more to bring these kids along in the right way, so when they get to this level, they can actually control ball, dictate with their passing, not just keep lumping it 60 yards when someone pressure them when they have possession.


Problem with England fans, they go from one extreme to another, when things are good we are going to win the WC, when it goes bad, we are the worse team in the world, however the worst scenario, is when there are no excuses to hide behind, like against Germany at the WC, you had fans saying its Capello, its this that and the other, but when you say to the, 40 years of managers cant be wrong, they dont have an answer, they will just continue to say, no! its the manager, its the players they dont care, they cant bare to come to the realization the players might not have the desired quality, that were just not as good as they think we are. England fans are manic depressive.

Joe, your a complete tool you are, infact if we both managed a pro football team, I guarantee my side would finish above yours, simply because you dont know a player when you see one, I mean who in their right mind would take Agbonlahor over Theo Walcott? Agbonlahor is so ordinary its untrue, all he has is pace, now you might accuse Theo of the same thing, but Theo can actually finish, time his runs to perfection, gives you a cutting edge when at his best, what does Agbonlahor do, act as a ball carrier? all I ever see him do, is sprint into a corner, slow the ball down, hold it up, wait for support, and he not a particularity good finisher either imo.

Walcott will play upfront for England in the years to come, mark my words.

I will admit i did want Capello out and i still do, i don't know many people who do want him there.

And i know you like Walcott but he is nothing special. I wasn't saying put Agbonlahor in for Walcott i was just using him as an example of a young striker we could call up. Walcott doesn't even play as a striker for England and it's unlikely to happen any time soon considering we have Rooney, Defoe, Bent, Crouch and Carroll all of whom aren't very old with the exception of Crouch and Defoe who are in their late 20's. But then after that there's younger players like Welbeck and Sturridge who have greater potential up front than Walcott imo.
I don't think he will be this brilliant player you seem to think he will be in the future. He runs fast but so does Lennon and SWP. All of those i don't really rate and you need more than pace to be a good footballer. The only place for Walcott is on the wings and there's no way i would take Walcott over Adam Johnson, Ashley Young or James Milner, all of whom are fairly young players themselves.

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Is Capello fired yet?

[Dynamite Kid]

I will admit i did want Capello out and i still do, i don't know many people who do want him there.

Why do you want him out? what are you expecting another manager to do? lets go back to Capello post world cup, look at England's qualifying campaign, pretty sure you weren't claiming he did'nt know what he was doing then. You can say England played terrible at the WC under Capello, but did you watch the last WC, 2006? we struggled against Paraguay in the first game I think it was, and needed Crouch to cheat to get by Trinidad & Tabago, that is the reality of how bad England have been in previous tournaments, even before! Capello took over, infact when is the last time you felt England went to a tourney, played well, went out with a fight, France 98, Euro 96? you think all the managers in-between were at fault for England under-performing? I dont agree with some of what Capello does, particularly team selection, which I think is poor, infact some of the decisions he makes, make me think WTF? that said, I give him the benefit of the doubt cause he is a top manager when all said and done, matter of fact when he leaves England, that will be magnified again if goes back to club football, and you will quickly realize, its to do with the English players, their psyche, lack of technique, lack of bottle under pressure, call it what you will, as to why they dont perform to their potential, or exceed it. Capello is the manager, but there is only so much he can do imo.

And i know you like Walcott but he is nothing special. I wasn't saying put Agbonlahor in for Walcott i was just using him as an example of a young striker we could call up. Walcott doesn't even play as a striker for England and it's unlikely to happen any time soon considering we have Rooney, Defoe, Bent, Crouch and Carroll all of whom aren't very old with the exception of Crouch and Defoe who are in their late 20's. But then after that there's younger players like Welbeck and Sturridge who have greater potential up front than Walcott imo.

Agbonlahor is not even an option for me, simply because he does not bring anything to the party, infact I would rather play an AMF like Joe Cole as my second striker than someone like him.

Its not that I like Walcott per say, if I did'nt see potential, I would call him out on the stuff he's not very good at. Walcott doesn't play as a striker at the moment, but Wenger is giving every indication that is where he sees his future, which is why he has got sporadic chances playing as a striker, which will only become a more regular occurrence imo, as his best attribute aside from his pace, is finishing, so who is to say that when the next Euro comes around, that Theo wont be one of Arsenal's leading strikers?

players like Welbeck and Sturridge who have greater potential up front than Walcott imo.

Well then you dont know a player when you see one.

I don't think he will be this brilliant player you seem to think he will be in the future. He runs fast but so does Lennon and SWP. All of those i don't really rate and you need more than pace to be a good footballer. The only place for Walcott is on the wings and there's no way i would take Walcott over Adam Johnson, Ashley Young or James Milner, all of whom are fairly young players themselves.

Huge difference between the attributes they have, to the attributes Theo has, the most notable one, his finishing prowess, which along with his pace, is why im convinced he will develop into a top striker, albeit he might always be one dimensional, but who cares about that? the whole England team is one dimensional, Michael Owen was one dimensional, had worse technique than Theo, couldn't hold the ball up for ****, yet still scored goals against the best defenders, Ayala, Lucio etc etc. Your problem is, you seemingly dont like him, like how you dont like Jack, but are also focusing on what he does not do well, instead of recognizing what he does do well.

Walcott is on the wings and there's no way i would take Walcott over Adam Johnson, Ashley Young or James Milner, all of whom are fairly young players themselves.

Theo is not a winger. Take a look at their goal scoring record for England, then take a look at Theo's', I'd hazard a guess Theo has scored more from that position than Young, Johnson, even though its not even his position, possibly Milner to, although im not sure. Goals win games, its that simple.

Gerrard aint as refined as Xavi, neither is Lamps, but they score goals, Xavi doesn't, not regularly anyway, does'nt make them better players, but it does make them as useful in degrees, which is why Theo, even as a winger, is a viable option to any of the guys you mentioned.

You do make me laugh, you act like Johnson, Young are Arjen Robben type prospects, when infact, they are more like the new Jermain Pennant, David Bentley, Richardson.

[El Fenomeno]

Why do you want him out? what are you expecting another manager to do? lets go back to Capello post world cup, look at England's qualifying campaign, pretty sure you weren't claiming he did'nt know what he was doing then. You can say England played terrible at the WC under Capello, but did you watch the last WC, 2006? we struggled against Paraguay in the first game I think it was, and needed Crouch to cheat to get by Trinidad & Tabago, that is the reality of how bad England have been in previous tournaments, even before! Capello took over, infact when is the last time you felt England went to a tourney, played well, went out with a fight, France 98, Euro 96? you think all the managers in-between were at fault for England under-performing?

I thought we did well in 2002 and Euro 2004. In fact, had it not been for us getting that bit of bad luck when it mattered, I think we could've gone on to win both tournaments. That's probably more of a reflection on the quality of other nations though, more so than how good we were at those tournaments.