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[SirTomJones]

Ryan Joseph Giggs OBE[1] (born Ryan Joseph Wilson on 29 November 1973) is a Welsh footballer who has played for Manchester United for his entire professional career. He established himself as a left-winger during the 1990s and continued in this position well into the 2000s, but he has been increasingly used in a deeper playmaking role in his later years.
Giggs holds a host of football records, including that of being the most decorated player in English football history. On 16 May 2009, he became the first footballer to collect 11 top division English league title medals. Giggs was the first player in history to win two consecutive PFA Young Player of the Year awards (1992 and 1993) and is the only player to have played and scored in every single season of the Premier League since its inception.
Giggs has had a long-lasting domestic and continental career and is the first player in UEFA Champions League history to have scored in 11 successive seasons, on top of being elected into the PFA Team of the Century in 2007,[2] the Premier League Team of the Decade, in 2003, as well as the FA Cup Team of the Century. Giggs is also the only United player to have played in all 11 Premier League winning teams and the first three League Cup-winning teams. At the 2008 UEFA Champions League Final, held on 21 May 2008, Giggs surpassed Sir Bobby Charlton's record of 758 appearances for Manchester United to become the club's all-time leader in appearances.[3]
At international level, Giggs played for the Welsh national team prior to his retirement from international football on 2 June 2007, and was once the youngest player to ever represent his country. In addition to the many honours Giggs has received within football such as being named in the Football League 100 Legends (the last active player in the list), he was appointed an OBE in the Queen's 2007 Birthday Honours List, and was inducted into the English Football Hall of Fame in 2005, for his services to English Football. He was named as BBC Sports Personality of the Year in 2009.



Amazing.

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I’m sorry. Success wise Giggs has it on Gerrard. But if we are talking about individuals, Gerrard is much a better player than Giggs and offers much more

Most definitely agree with you.

Giggs is one of the most decorated players in history. 11 Premier League Titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 Champions Leagues etc etc

However, contrast Giggs teammates over the years with what Gerrard has had to work wth. There is no contest. I'm still amazed that Gerrard was able to drag Liverpool to 2 Champions League Finals with players like Riise, Smicer etc

Whereas, Giggs has played alongside Cantona, Scholes, Beckham, Ronaldo, Rooney, Cole, Yorke, Van Niistelrooy, Veron, Ferdinand etc etc

Not to mention one of the best managers in history. So, of course he will have accomplished more.


Gerrard is a more dynamic and complete player. His aptitude to rescue Liverpool countless times is a testament to his ability.

[Flawless*]

Gerrard hasn't done all that much in his career when you compare him to the top players.

Gerrard will not be playing at the same age as Giggs is right now. That is unless of course Liverpool get relegated to the Championship.

Of course he hasn't. Since has hasn't played with the best players available. Just imagine Gerrard at Chelsea or Arsenal. He would have done a lot more.

Look at the Champions League run in 2004-2005 season. Gerrard single handily won them the cup. Man of the match in the final and UEFA Club Footballer of the Year. Two years later, he is able to take Liverpool into the final.

What about Gerrard's double against West Ham? That is one of the greatest moment in FA Cup History.

Gerrard can control a game and influence, while Giggs couldn’t. Not even in his prime. He has been found out in European football. He has always been non existent for United in the UCL. While Gerrard has produced the goods numerous times.

You clearly have watched football for a maximum of 2 years if you think this.

Ryan Giggs is good but not better than Steven Gerrard. Gerrard offers much more than Giggs as a player. Even in his so called “great” Prime/

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Gerrard hasn't done all that much in his career when you compare him to the top players.

Gerrard will not be playing at the same age as Giggs is right now. That is unless of course Liverpool get relegated to the Championship.

Nobody is arguing that Giggs has accomplished more with United, it's a no brainer. Use simple logic and the reason so is because he has simply been playing with a better bunch of players.

Assess them individually.

[Flawless*]

Most definitely agree with you.

Giggs is one of the most decorated players in history. 11 Premier League Titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 Champions Leagues etc etc

However, contrast Giggs teammates over the years with what Gerrard has had to work wth. There is no contest. I'm still amazed that Gerrard was able to drag Liverpool to 2 Champions League Finals with players like Riise, Smicer etc

Whereas, Giggs has played alongside Cantona, Scholes, Beckham, Ronaldo, Rooney, Cole, Yorke, Van Niistelrooy, Veron, Ferdinand etc etc

Not to mention one of the best managers in history. So, of course he will have accomplished more.


Gerrard is a more dynamic and complete player. His aptitude to rescue Liverpool countless times is a testament to his ability.

Excellent post, Gerrard is underrated because of Liverpool.

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You clearly have watched football for a maximum of 2 years if you think this.

Total Nonsense.

1. Gerrard is a better striker of the ball.
2. Gerrard is a better defender
3. Gerrard can play RB, CM,CDM, ST, FW, LM, RM and play "well" in all those positions, he is proven to be a much more versatile player
4. Gerrard is a better Header of the ball
5. Gerrard is a much more "inspirational" player and oozed charisma and leadership
6. Gerrard takes better freekicks
7. Gerrard is a better passer, long and short range.

Gerrard *****s Giggs in all facets of football, except dribbling.

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Total Nonsense.

1. Gerrard is a better striker of the ball.
2. Gerrard is a better defender
3. Gerrard can play RB, CM,CDM, ST, FW, LM, RM and play "well" in all those positions, he is proven to be a much more versatile player
4. Gerrard is a better Header of the ball
5. Gerrard is a much more "inspirational" player and oozed charisma and leadership
6. Gerrard takes better freekicks
7. Gerrard is a better passer, long and short range.

Gerrard *****s Giggs in all facets of football, except dribbling.

8. Gerrard is a better tackler
9. He takes better corners
10. Better with his opposite foot than Giggs.

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Of course he hasn't. Since has hasn't played with the best players available. Just imagine Gerrard at Chelsea or Arsenal. He would have done a lot more.

Look at the Champions League run in 2004-2005 season. Gerrard single handily won them the cup. Man of the match in the final and UEFA Club Footballer of the Year. Two years later, he is able to take Liverpool into the final.

What about Gerrard's double against West Ham? That is one of the greatest moment in FA Cup History.

Gerrard can control a game and influence, while Giggs couldn’t. Not even in his prime. He has been found out in European football. He has always been non existent for United in the UCL. While Gerrard has produced the goods numerous times.




Ryan Giggs is good but not better than Steven Gerrard. Gerrard offers much more than Giggs as a player. Even in his so called “great” Prime/

Gerrard is a much more "influential" player. No doubt. Some players just have that quality in them and Gerrard is one of them.

The FA Cup Final is a great example. Also the header in the Champions League Final at the beginning of the 2nd half to get Liverpool back into the game. Not to mention the way he played the rest of the match, winning the penalty and than playing as a Right Back, making crucial tackles etc etc

[Flawless*]

Gerrard is a much more "influential" player. No doubt. Some players just have that quality in them and Gerrard is one of them.

The FA Cup Final is a great example. Also the header in the Champions League Final at the beginning of the 2nd half to get Liverpool back into the game. Not to mention the way he played the rest of the match, winning the penalty and than playing as a Right Back, making crucial tackles etc etc

Yea, I will never forgive that UCL final. Stopped 5 crosses in the second half.



I don't want to wake up in the UEFA Cup Tomorrow

[Joe2608]

Total Nonsense.

1. Gerrard is a better striker of the ball.
2. Gerrard is a better defender
3. Gerrard can play RB, CM,CDM, ST, FW, LM, RM and play "well" in all those positions, he is proven to be a much more versatile player
4. Gerrard is a better Header of the ball
5. Gerrard is a much more "inspirational" player and oozed charisma and leadership
6. Gerrard takes better freekicks
7. Gerrard is a better passer, long and short range.

Gerrard *****s Giggs in all facets of football, except dribbling.

I disagree with a few of those but the reason why he is more effective than Gerrard is because of the part i bolded. There's only so much a CM player can do they are never generally as good or effective as a winger. For example, Xavi makes Barcelona tick but Messi will always get the back pages.
If you want to limit Giggs's talents to just "good dribbling" then i think it's fair to label Gerrard as someone who has next to no skill, is just pure heart and determination and has a good right foot.

You can't use the excuse that he was at Liverpool, no matter what team you are in it takes a special team to win a Champions League and reach the final 2 years later. He clearly didn't do it all on his own.

Secondly, i rate Gerrard in the same kinda bracket as Lampard, who is at Chelsea. Lampard has been a great player in the Premiership but despite playing for a big club he still doesn't compare to Giggs either so i don't see why Gerrard being at a big club like Chelsea is going to make any difference. If anything i think if you took him away from Liverpool he would be worse because that is his club.