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[Dynamite Kid]

Stalaagh nice to see you have come out of hiding after your disappearing act round the time of Arsenals usual late season collapse

At the end of the day Gibson is 4th or 5th choice at Man United he has done decently as a bit part player and will most likely get sold sometime down the line.. if Hargreaves and Anderson sort out injury problems.

Neither Gibson, Ramsey, Wellbeck, Wilshre and co are proven, proven is going through a few seasons and doing well on a fairly consistent basis. Playing bit part roles and doing ok doesn't mean ****, one problem for Arsenal is that they need these kids to come on good straight away as the squad is tiny (quality wise) after the first 11..

They might not be established but a blind man can see that Wilshere and Ramsey have a much higher ceiling than Gibson, Welbeck.

[Joe2608]

At the end of the day i don't rate Gibson or Wilshere that highly they really aren't relevant tbh i don't know why people are losing their rags about them.

[Dynamite Kid]

To be fair quite a few Liverpool fans i knew at school were hyping the **** out of him

Honestly, scoring the odd screamer does not mean much, anyone can spank the ball as hard as they can and get lucky.

Take Jérémie Aliadière, i watched that game that Cesc scored his debut goal for Arsenal, Arsenal won 5 or 6-1 if i recall, however that was not the HL, what was the HL, was Jérémie Aliadière turning the Wolves defense inside out and scoring a fantastic goal, look what happened to him, and he was better than Gibson technically.

[Dynamite Kid]

[Stalaggh]

Stalaagh nice to see you have come out of hiding after your disappearing act round the time of Arsenals usual late season collapse

At the end of the day Gibson is 4th or 5th choice at Man United he has done decently as a bit part player and will most likely get sold sometime down the line.. if Hargreaves and Anderson sort out injury problems.

Neither Gibson, Ramsey, Wellbeck, Wilshre and co are proven, proven is going through a few seasons and doing well on a fairly consistent basis. Playing bit part roles and doing ok doesn't mean ****, one problem for Arsenal is that they need these kids to come on good straight away as the squad is tiny (quality wise) after the first 11..

An even then a few of the first eleven are fairly suspect compared to what they had in the past. In fact quality wise i think the top 4 is pretty weak right now and don't think the CL winner comes from England this year.

Lol, it after that, the whole month of June, basically the WC. Had to come back, you mancs go round saying ****** things in here.


"Neither Gibson, Ramsey, Wellbeck, Wilshre and co are proven, proven is going through a few seasons and doing well on a fairly consistent basis." thats for Joe and Venom

[MOTHER DUCKER]

They might not be established but a blind man can see that Wilshere and Ramsey have a much higher ceiling than Gibson, Welbeck.

Yeah Ramsey has the most talent from what i have seen from that bunch, i think the 2 from Man United will be sold in 1 or 2 years. The most impressive youngsters at Man United right now are the Silva brothers, Evans and Hernandez

[Joe2608]

They might not be established but a blind man can see that Wilshere and Ramsey have a much higher ceiling than Gibson, Welbeck.

You don't know that at all. It's all speculation nobody can predict the future. Ramsey could come back looking a shadow of his former self after his leg break, look what happened to Eduardo. Wilshere hasn't done anything yet so nobody knows. Gibson under the right guidance (aka Ferguson) can build on his game and become a solid player for us, or they can be impatient and sell him off. Welbeck can do good but he also might get sold to Sunderland or something.

Nobody knows.

[Dynamite Kid]

Yeah Ramsey has the most talent from what i have seen from that bunch, i think the 2 from Man United will be sold in 1 or 2 years.

I disagree with that, im a big fan of Wilshere, fair play Ramsey is further along in his development being that he is a older, played more first team games, but from ive seen of the two, Wilshere will be the better player, he has a remarkable football brain for someone so young im, of coarse Ramsey is also a terrific player, i just think Wilshere has more skill, better footballing brain to, although im not saying Ramsey is lacking a football brain or anything.

I dont expect miracles from Wilshere just yet though, infact i expect his performances to go up and down because of his age, lack of experience.

[Addition]

From an unbiased point of view, Ramsey >> Gibson, Wellbeck in terms of quality and talent. Wilshire isn't in their league yet, he needs time.

Having said that, i'd rather have Gibson and Wellbeck over Wilshire and Ramsey.

[Chunk..]

Gibson will take over Fletcher's role when he leaves for Everton in a couple of years.