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    I like Ibe but I think he may become another role-specific british player. Him and Sterling have so much talent but it's wasted by being told to play to a specific role/ style.

    When Jose tried to make Hazard be a role-player, just look how that turned out. Imagine if Messi was never allowed to reach his potential, he'd be just another great dribbling winger out on the right side of the 433.


    Side note though. Have any of you lot read that Sir Alex Ferguson book? Leading is the name.

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      Originally posted by Mr Ehrmantraut View Post
      No Manc makes that post.

      Definitely a ****ney red.
      Your a yank mate.. gtfo

      Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
      Innit.

      How old is Motherducker?

      I bet he supported LFC in the 80s and switched to Utd in the 90s.

      surprised he isnt Chelsea or City by now.

      Originally posted by BodiesInFlight View Post
      True lol

      He posts more pro Liverpool than he does United.
      I thought it was pretty obv trolling for my boy Roy.. but i guess not..

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        Originally posted by Roy Jones Jnr View Post
        Hazard joins any other club in world football rather than Chelsea when he left Lille = at least 2 Ballon D'ors by now.

        FACT.

        Oscar = Ruined.

        Fabregas = Ruined.

        Pedro = Ruined.

        Willian = Ruined.

        Batshoe = Ruined.

        Torres = Ruined.

        Hazard = nearly ruined.

        Cuadrado = Ruined

        Schurrlle = Ruined

        Hundreds of the best young talents in world football = Ruined.

        This ain't just me taking the p1ss...these are stone cold FACTS. Anyone who dares to play a bit of football gets ruined at Chelsea. Only dogs like Costa flourish.

        Disgusting anti-football club. Should be banned for crimes against the beautiful game tbh.
        LOL those aren't even the worse ones.. schevchenko/crespo/torres were literaly the best strikers in the world.. Chelsea destroyed them

        There is also some dodgy stuff going on at Chelsea will allows them to get around the fair play stuff...

        The amount they are selling some of these players for (oscar/luiz etc) is just not right and somehow Roman is involved..

        How did Luiz go from letting in 8 goals vs Gemany and being ****e.. to being worth 50m?

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          Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
          I'm not going to run down the list of players Roy mentioned but there is no way in hell Hazard would win a Ballon in the next 5 years. Even if Ronaldo retires, Messi is still there and Messi can muster 3 goals on 20 assists and still win Ballon. So there is no point in that argument.
          Is that you downplaying Messi's achievements?

          Every season Messi has had since about 2007 has been a different level to Hazard's best season.

          Objectively speaking if the ballon d'or was given to the 'best player' in the world that year (individual performance, disregarding team achievements) Messi would've won about 10 of the things. Different level of impact altogether, Hazard will never get there.

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            Hazard at his very best is only discussed in the Neymar/Suarez type bracket.

            When Neymar has been at his best he's been put amongst the bracket above that.

            I expect that to resume soon when Hazard reverts to his usual inconsistent mediocrity. Supremely talented ****house.

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              Originally posted by MOTHERDUCKER View Post
              LOL those aren't even the worse ones.. schevchenko/crespo/torres were literaly the best strikers in the world.. Chelsea destroyed them

              There is also some dodgy stuff going on at Chelsea will allows them to get around the fair play stuff...

              The amount they are selling some of these players for (oscar/luiz etc) is just not right and somehow Roman is involved..

              How did Luiz go from letting in 8 goals vs Gemany and being ****e.. to being worth 50m?

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                By Hazard winning the Ballon D'or i obviously meant the ''let's pretend someone else deserves it rather than the GOAT Messi just to try and make it seem exciting whilst Messi is still playing, pity Ballon D'or'', you know the ones they give to Cristiano Ronaldo every now and then.

                Top 3 brackets are

                1 = Messi

                2 = Ronaldo, Mane

                3 = Hazard, Neymar, Suarez, Coutinho etc.

                Hazard could well have been up there with Ronaldo and Mane if he didn't join Chelsea. That's a FACT.

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                  Hazard hasn't got the mentality to be up there with those guys although he is definitely as good as them technically.

                  Hazard is basically given a free role at Chelsea now and has no pressure on him to do anything defensively. He is also playing one game a week at the moment and he still goes missing for long periods of games.

                  But really, Hazard is not a pressure game player. He's quite soft. If the clubs behind Chelsea put pressure on us most Chelsea fans know for a fact that he will go missing because he always does.

                  I am not digging him out that much but those top players are basically sociopathic and true individualists. Hazard if anything is a souped up David Silva - his instincts are the same as his.

                  I am not convinced that Hazard has the stones to succeed at either Real Madrid or Barcelona. They chased Bale out of the car park when he had a few bad games. Hazard played like a bum for a whole season. He'd have a breakdown if he played for them.

                  For people like Roy who are love the stats and that Hazard needs to go to PSG where he can knock in 25 goals a season. But the issue there is PSG will never win a European Cup because you can't go from facing cheesemakers to Barcelona and be able to compete properly so he'd never win a big individual prize there either.

                  In fact, Chelsea are probably the best team he could possibly play for. Even then I'd swap him for Bale.

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                    Hazard isn't near Messi's level technically!

                    Messi has a knack that no other player has and that's to make the difficult look routine on a consistent basis. Over and over again. That's nothing to do with him not 'going missing' that's just him having more ability than the rest.

                    Hazard and Neymar are on similar levels of technique except I think Neymar is a bit more skilful and his eye for a pass is better. But I think it's a fair comparison to make in terms of ability.

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                      what makes you think i love stats?!

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