That's simple torque that guy did to move them, theres a big difference however in moving one stone 12 foot in the air, it's another to put them hundreds of meters in the air with such precision you can fit a knife between the blocks. The stonehenge is an over hyped wonder of the world, just a few blocks on a cliff arranged in a circle. Now those heads carved into easter island is a mystery, as well as the pyramid like structures appearing over the south american and egyptian landscape.
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Exactly! I've been trying to say this. I don't think aliens built them but I don't the Egyptians did either or if they did they received help.Originally posted by Salty View PostComment
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Originally posted by Knicksman20 View Post
Really....and tell me how the Mayans, Aztecs and Incas cut stone without any metal???
It can be done, lime stone was used and it can be cut. Like I said, it's romantic to think they recieved outside help from some unknown civilization but it was done.
If one man can move stones up to 20,000 lbs, I have no doubt hundred of thousands of ****** could do it.Comment
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With all due respect to the Mayans, Aztecs and Incas, their pyramids & cities don't even compare to the complexity of the Great Pyramid.Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
About the copper tools:
Egyptology is abandoning a long-held, central tenet of pyramid construction. Since the inception of Egyptology, Egyptologists have asserted that copper chisels and saws were used to prepare millions of pyramid blocks....
Dieter Arnold, in his Building in Egypt, acknowledges trials in the 1980s that established a new dividing line between the types of rock that can be cut with copper:
"For some time, the observation of ancient tools, their traces on the stone surface of unfinished monuments, and occasional tests of the hardness of Egyptian copper or bronze tools made it clear that Egyptian masons and sculptors were able to cut softer stones with copper tools but had to use stone tools for dressing hard stones. The line distinguishing the two was between limestone, sandstone, and alabaster on one side and granite, quartzite, and basalt on the other. A series of tests carried out recently by Denys Stocks seems to lower this border line drastically."
The finding drastically affects the viability of the accepted theory of pyramid construction. Arnold continues:
"We know that hard stones such as granite, granodiorite, syenite, and basalt could not have been cut with metal tools. The tests conducted by Stocks seem to indicate that even hard limestone, sandstone, and alabaster would fall into this category."
Most limestone pyramid and temple blocks at Giza are medium hard to hard. In the 1980s, geologists from Waseda University conducted a geological survey of the Great Pyramid. They described its limestone blocks this way:
"...hard and highly viscous."
Their finding is logical, because the monument would have collapsed from its own weight long ago if its blocks were not relatively hard.Your last statement about one man moving a 20,000 is true but as Salty said moving all of the blocks & PRECISELY placing these blocks hundreds of feet in the air is another thing. IMHO that could not have been done in the span that tradional Egyptologists have said. How many times do you think they would have to move each block to get it in the perfect position without damaging it? And to do this every 3 minutes is insane.As discussed in The Egyptian Pyramid Mystery Is Solved!, Egyptologists who have examined this issue recognize several reasons why copper could not have been used to cut blocks for the Great Pyramid. Given that harder metals like bronze and iron were not available during the Pyramid Age, some Egyptologists advocate that stone tools must have been used to shape the pyramid blocks.Comment
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so how the **** did they do it then lolComment
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Originally posted by Knicksman20 View Post
The pyramids the Aztecs and Mayas built don't compaire? Are you serious?
Many bellieve they were even more impressive than the Egyptian pyramids because of the fact that when you look at those cultures in the America's, they were in the stone age, much farther back in civilization as compaired to the Egyptians.
They built these pyramids with no wheel, no beast's of burden and no metal tools. If you don't think they were big check this out:
The base is the same size as the great pyramid of Kufu and spanish historians said that they destroyed one twice the size in the conquest of Mexico. Tell me how that isn't impressive.Comment
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For one it's one of the Seven Wonders Of The World. The reason it's more advanced:Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View PostThe pyramids the Aztecs and Mayas built don't compaire? Are you serious?
Many bellieve they were even more impressive than the Egyptian pyramids because of the fact that when you look at those cultures in the America's, they were in the stone age, much farther back in civilization as compaired to the Egyptians.
They built these pyramids with no wheel, no beast's of burden and no metal tools. If you don't think they were big check this out:
The base is the same size as the great pyramid of Kufu and spanish historians said that they destroyed one twice the size in the conquest of Mexico. Tell me how that isn't impressive.
1) The sides of the pyramid are lined up almost exactly with the cardinal points of the compass. The accuracy of this alignment is extraordinary, with an average discrepancy of only about three minutes of arc in any direction or a variation of less than 0.06 percent.
2) The basic dimensions of the Great Pyramid incorporate measurements from which the earth's size and shape can be calculated. The pyramid is a scale model of the hemisphere, incorporating the geographical degrees of latitude and longitude. The latitude and longitude lines that intersect at the Great Pyramid (30 degrees north and 31 degrees east) cross more of the earth's land surface than any other lines, thus the pyramid is located at the center of the land mass of the earth (the pyramid is built on the closest suitable site to this intersection). The original perimeter of the pyramid equals exactly one-half minute of latitude at the equator, indicating that its builders measured the earth with extreme precision and recorded this information in the dimensions of the structure. Altogether these measurements show that the builders knew the exact dimensions of the planet as precisely as they have been recently determined by satellite surveys.
3) The foundation of the Great Pyramid is amazingly level. No corner of its base is more than one-half inch higher or lower than the others. Considering that the pyramid's base covers more than thirteen acres, this near-perfect leveling far exceeds even the finest architectural standards of the present day.
4) Measurements show that the builders knew the precise spherical shape and size of the earth and had accurately charted such complex astronomical events as the precession of the equinoxes and the lunar standstill dates. The minute discrepancies of the lengths of the base of the pyramid (several inches over the 230 meter length of its base) reveal not an error on the part of the builders but an ingenious means of incorporating into the pyramid the "discrepancies" of the earth itself, in this case the flattening of the earth's globe at the poles.
The list goes on & on...Comment
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Aztec and Mayan accomplishments:
1) One of the three places in the world where civilization originated without outside help from the outside world, these are known as "pristine civilizations" according to archeologists (the other two are Iraq and China.)
2) Creators of the the world's largest city three separate times: Teotihuacan, Tenochtitlan, and Cholula.
3) First people in the world to use zero (even before the Hindus).
4) Creators of a base-20 mathematics system with positional notation (predating Europeans)
5) Creators of the world's most accurate calendar
(after 1492, Europeans changed their calendar to the Gregorian system because they realized it was inaccurate.)
6) Possessors of a pyramid tradition that extended all the way up north the Mississippi River to Wisconsin, and all the way to the East Coast. And of course this pyramid tradition was independent of Egypt. The heart of this civilization was in what is now called Mexico and "Central America".
(Do a Google on "Cahokia" for more info.)
7) Created a calculator/abacus which they called the Nepohualtzitzin.
8) Writen language and Parchment, Uto-Aztecan language is still used today by most tribes in Mexico and North America.
9) Top-notch astronomers measuring and predicting the movements of the sun, moon, planets, and stars (Europeans imitated the style of their observatories after 1492, changing their own in the mid 1540's)
10) First people in the world to have mandatory education (Tenochtitlan).
(see "Daily Life of the Aztecs" by Jacques Soustelle)
11) Independently devleoped 12 writing systems (of which the Mayan system was the pinnacle). (see "Mexico: From the Olmecs to the Aztecs" by Michael D Coe)
12) Creators of cities before there was a single town or city in all of western Europe.
13) Creators of the world's two largest pyramids: the Pyramid of Danta (Mayan) and the Pyramid of Cholula. (see Discovery Channel's DVD series entitled "Pyramids, Mummies, and Tombs.)
14) Biogenetically domisticated the corn plant into its modern variant giving the world one of the most nutritious foods. (read "1491" by Charles Mann)
and then there are the myriad of other inventions and developments that Aztec's and Mayas made:
* chocolate
* vanilla
* cotton (their cotton was more durable than the Egyptian type, thus used today)
* the syringe
* latex treatment to create rubber
* chewing gum
* cataract removal with obsidian blades
* concrete (made of limestone, also invented in China)
* dentistry
* board games
* geometry
* mirrors
* popcorn
* a vast pharmacopeia (botanical medicine)
* roads systems
* scalpels
* umbrellas
* toothbrushes
* plus all the fine arts in scultpure, painting, goldworking, featherworking, poetry, music, etc
These people were very advanced, you don't give them ENOUGH credit.Comment
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Another thing is, if Aliens or some other more advanced group came and showed the Egyptians on how to build these things, why did they mess up if they were so advanced??
Crooked pyramid in Egypt. The builders MESSED UP, failing to erect it as high as they wanted to. Engineers and Egyptologyst's have deduced that it was a failed attempt by the builders in egineering the project.
See, the Egyptians didn't just decide one day to build the pyramids, they started off small hundreds even thousand's of year before hand. Then, through trial and error, built the pyramids you see today.
Thats sounds like the work of HUMAN BEINGS, not aliens or people from Atlantis.......
I'm done.Comment
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Living Proof there's a God if u need a reason
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