Upgrade Tyson Fury's Power and Speed Mechanics!

[Lavernebarker]

Who Won the match?

[PRINCEKOOL]

All this nonsense of 'Tyson Fury is not fully committing, or IF only he sat down on his punches' is complete nonsense.

Tyson Fury is not a puncher, even if he had the technique of Mike Tyson? He still would not be a serious puncher at heavyweight.

Heavyweights or fighters with punching power, can punch regardless. David Haye's last round punch which badly damaged Nikola Valuev is a example of this etc

[tcbender]

All this nonsense of 'Tyson Fury is not fully committing, or IF only he sat down on his punches' is complete nonsense.

Tyson Fury is not a puncher, even if he had the technique of Mike Tyson? He still would not be a serious puncher at heavyweight.

Heavyweights or fighters with punching power, can punch regardless. David Haye's last round punch which badly damaged Nikola Valuev is a example of this etc

I'm personally not saying that suddenly Fury would be a fabulous power puncher with knockout power, but any man almost 300lbs that really sits down on a punch, gets good rotation of the legs up through the torso, and puts the whole weight of his body behind it will have some power, thus the much higher chances of knockouts among heavyweights in combat sports.

And not having power from being too fleet footed and not sitting down on your punches is in fact a very real thing.
This is a hypothetical and theres a trade-off of course. A lot of fighters realize early on that maybe they don't quite have the power, but they do have the movement so they focus on that .

Being a power puncher myself if I go out there and try to stay extremely light on my feet and dance around like Ali the whole round/never really plant, then my power is also not going to translate as well.

[AlexKid]

All this nonsense of 'Tyson Fury is not fully committing, or IF only he sat down on his punches' is complete nonsense.

Tyson Fury is not a puncher, even if he had the technique of Mike Tyson? He still would not be a serious puncher at heavyweight.

Heavyweights or fighters with punching power, can punch regardless. David Haye's last round punch which badly damaged Nikola Valuev is a example of this etc

he would be a puncher in the same sense pacman or rjj jr are punchers, so yes he would, they dont have overly hard single shots but the speed Fury has would translate into knockouts because he would be catching everyone cold like they do

Nigel Benn is a puncher, Roy Jones Jr isnt really heavy handed in the same way as Benn but because he is fast he will get jut as many or more KO's than Benn because he catches people wo them seeing it coming/being able to take the energy off

So Fury can do that if he stops being sloppy and muscling his punches, it will also completely demorilise Deontay if he see's Fury punching like his Idol RJJ, which is what almost happened in the pad session b4 the deontay fight Fury was showing what he will be in time if he does enough quality repetitions and stops muscling it fully, gets the kinetic linking 100% and makes all his punches reliably SUDDEN like he has shown he can do in the occasional few punches on a pad session


This giant men are RARE and boxers that perfect kinetic linking and control are rare so to get a big man that does it well is practically non existent, Fury can do it he looks like hes on the way already lets hope the progress CONTINUES and becomes CONSISTENT some fighters always stay in that half way house stage. Kahn is an example of that bursts of speed faster than RJJ but not usually as fast consistently, he didnt get it fully down

Valuev again god genes poor technique, its not him its the lack of mastery in the technique.

(not saying Fury can be as fast as RJJ but he will be very very reminiscent of him if he perfects it even at that weight and size)

Deontay isnt like RJJ hes like a heavyweight version of Nigel Benn in terms of his heavy handed power.

[AlexKid]

there is a problem with speed and knockouts ie khan and Bradley and some other guys can be fast and still not get knockouts, but it can be fixed

[PRINCEKOOL]

he would be a puncher in the same sense pacman or rjj jr are punchers, so yes he would, they dont have overly hard single shots but the speed Fury has would translate into knockouts because he would be catching everyone cold like they do

Nigel Benn is a puncher, Roy Jones Jr isnt really heavy handed in the same way as Benn but because he is fast he will get jut as many or more KO's than Benn because he catches people wo them seeing it coming/being able to take the energy off

So Fury can do that if he stops being sloppy and muscling his punches, it will also completely demorilise Deontay if he see's Fury punching like his Idol RJJ, which is what almost happened in the pad session b4 the deontay fight Fury was showing what he will be in time if he does enough quality repetitions and stops muscling it fully, gets the kinetic linking 100% and makes all his punches reliably SUDDEN like he has shown he can do in the occasional few punches on a pad session


This giant men are RARE and boxers that perfect kinetic linking and control are rare so to get a big man that does it well is practically non existent, Fury can do it he looks like hes on the way already lets hope the progress CONTINUES and becomes CONSISTENT some fighters always stay in that half way house stage. Kahn is an example of that bursts of speed faster than RJJ but not usually as fast consistently, he didnt get it fully down

Valuev again god genes poor technique, its not him its the lack of mastery in the technique.

(not saying Fury can be as fast as RJJ but he will be very very reminiscent of him if he perfects it even at that weight and size)

Deontay isnt like RJJ hes like a heavyweight version of Nigel Benn in terms of his heavy handed power.

So one minute Tyson Fury is one of the most technically gifted fighters in the sport, the next minute? He does not know how to throw a punch. Tyson Fury has sat down on his punches, and at elite level he still is not a puncher.

Roy Jones Junior had more naturally punching ability than Tyson Fury, there is zero comparison between Tyson Fury and Roy Jones Junior.

[PRINCEKOOL]

he would be a puncher in the same sense pacman or rjj jr are punchers, so yes he would, they dont have overly hard single shots but the speed Fury has would translate into knockouts because he would be catching everyone cold like they do

Nigel Benn is a puncher, Roy Jones Jr isnt really heavy handed in the same way as Benn but because he is fast he will get jut as many or more KO's than Benn because he catches people wo them seeing it coming/being able to take the energy off

So Fury can do that if he stops being sloppy and muscling his punches, it will also completely demorilise Deontay if he see's Fury punching like his Idol RJJ, which is what almost happened in the pad session b4 the deontay fight Fury was showing what he will be in time if he does enough quality repetitions and stops muscling it fully, gets the kinetic linking 100% and makes all his punches reliably SUDDEN like he has shown he can do in the occasional few punches on a pad session


This giant men are RARE and boxers that perfect kinetic linking and control are rare so to get a big man that does it well is practically non existent, Fury can do it he looks like hes on the way already lets hope the progress CONTINUES and becomes CONSISTENT some fighters always stay in that half way house stage. Kahn is an example of that bursts of speed faster than RJJ but not usually as fast consistently, he didnt get it fully down

Valuev again god genes poor technique, its not him its the lack of mastery in the technique.

(not saying Fury can be as fast as RJJ but he will be very very reminiscent of him if he perfects it even at that weight and size)

Deontay isnt like RJJ hes like a heavyweight version of Nigel Benn in terms of his heavy handed power.

Timothy Bradly had great kinetic linking and punching technique from the bottom up 'And even Bradley was not a big puncher'

Manny Pacqauio is another fighter who does not have great punching technique, but he is still a puncher.

The point I was making in this thread, is that punchers 'Real punchers can punch regardless'.

Tyson Fury may improve abit, but not by much. 'Of course yes if he perfected all those things you have just stated? He would improve abit, but he still would not become a devastating puncher'

In some aspects, it does seem like punchers are born.

[PRINCEKOOL]

There is also something called Muscle fiber recruitment, POWER is how fast a force can be applied in the shortest amount of time. Fighters such as Mike Tyson could generate and apply a force in a very short amount of time 'Just like a Olympic Weight Lifter', which made him a devastating puncher 'Then you have fighters such as George Foreman, who could generate and apply immense amount of force' but not quite at the same speed as Mike Tyson.

Tyson Fury can generate a decent amount of speed, but he is not applying or generating much force. Chris Eubank Junior is another fighter who has similar mechanics to Tyson Fury, in the sense that he generates great speed 'But does not hit with much force' When I try to think of the explanations in physics/science, even I find this confusing as to why 'Especially somebody like Chris Eubank Junior does not hit harder' Junior has made the right choice in moving back down to 160 pound division.

Fighters tend to think lifting weights will help them, but if that was the case? A 100 meter sprinter could be manufactured. Punching power is the one attribute in boxing that literally seems to be a gift from a higher place 'There needs to be some sort so supernatural ability already within a fighter, then that ability needs to be nurtured through correct training and self belief'

I could actually document the moment in David Haye's career, where he seemingly lost the believe in his own punching power 'It was during the very first Tony Bellew fight' It was as if the Green Lantern had his ring taken away from him.

Note I believe that Chris Eubank Junior may have slightly better punching power and ability than Tyson Fury.

[Nash out]

Tyson Fury is the p4p number 1. No power? He just knocked out the beast Braun Strowman.

[Redd Foxx]

no legs in that pic lol

If you can't understand where their legs are based on their upper-body posture then forget about power and study the basic-basics.