How much do you pay at your gym and do you pay for personal lessons?

[Boxfan83]

The reason I ask is right now I train and I love it but its strictly non-profit and recently times $$$ wise have gotten a lil tough so I have been looking for a part-time job. Anyway, (thank God) I was offered a job as a childrens coach (non-boxing) in an after school program for a few hours a week which is perfect because it doesnt mess with my boxing training schedule and its nice extra cash. BUT this has me wondering, I am already a registered Boxing coach, this part time job will give me paid experience, and I plan on getting my Personal Trainer Certificate, so how much $$$ can I really make if I took on boxing as a coach or a conditioning coach?

It doesn't necessarily have to be a boxing gym, it could be MMA, or a regular fitness gym. Im looking to get a rough/educated estimate. Your feed back as to what you pay is much appreciated.

[Redd Foxx]

Definitely get paid. I'm in the music biz (which is a savage, cannibalistic beast) and a teacher of mine many years back gave me some invaluable advice that turned a hobby into a career, "Don't under-sell yourself."

When I was going to a boxing gym a few years ago I was paying 30/month for open gym, or $120/month for full gym + 8 personal lessons, which were an hour each. This is definitely on the cheap side. A boxing gym down the street from me offers a similar deal for $180/month, which was their sale price. Other places I've shopped seem to be priced between these two.
2 MMA gyms I've been two were $140 and $160/month ea which only included group lessons. Private lessons added $120 to $160/month addl.

From what I understand, pricing varies a lot depending on location. There seems to still be places where kids can go train without spending much, if anything. In a town like mine (Scottsdale/Phoenix) the fitness biz is big and people pay a lot for personal trainers, even for their kids.

Though boxing is more specialized, I think you have an asset there in that the market for personal trainers/coaches is saturated but there are fewer who can actually coach boxing. Best of luck, whatever area you go into. Let us know how it pans out.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

The gym I go to is ran by ex fighters, pro mma fighters, and a certain former top middleweight contender who I will not name...

The Golden Gloves team here has won the title 3x in a row.

It's all 100% free. Down side is the place is tiny and PACKED as well as they are only open 3-4x per week for a couple of hours.

[Boxfan83]

Definitely get paid. I'm in the music biz (which is a savage, cannibalistic beast) and a teacher of mine many years back gave me some invaluable advice that turned a hobby into a career, "Don't under-sell yourself."

When I was going to a boxing gym a few years ago I was paying 30/month for open gym, or $120/month for full gym + 8 personal lessons, which were an hour each. This is definitely on the cheap side. A boxing gym down the street from me offers a similar deal for $180/month, which was their sale price. Other places I've shopped seem to be priced between these two.
2 MMA gyms I've been two were $140 and $160/month ea which only included group lessons. Private lessons added $120 to $160/month addl.

From what I understand, pricing varies a lot depending on location. There seems to still be places where kids can go train without spending much, if anything. In a town like mine (Scottsdale/Phoenix) the fitness biz is big and people pay a lot for personal trainers, even for their kids.

Though boxing is more specialized, I think you have an asset there in that the market for personal trainers/coaches is saturated but there are fewer who can actually coach boxing. Best of luck, whatever area you go into. Let us know how it pans out.

Thanks FOXX for the pricing, thats a lot more than I thought itd be in the Phoenix area, Ive always thought of Az in general being a very reasonable market. I could probably swindle some people here in Southern Ca. we love to throw $ down the drain out here lol!

And yeah man, i was recently asked by a local gym (ran by a nearby city) to do volunteer work because he heard from a gym owner that my kids spar at about my kids cardio. It really got me thinking that I could sell this to parents. If my girl didnt have college loans to pay I wouldnt mind volunteering but the bills are adding up so I was looking for an outlet without burning myself out with a boring second job.

Personally I think I would be a good strength and conditioning coach. I want to establish myself with youth, get the parents talking and see where it goes. I know itll be a long road but I will keep you updated. Thanks again brother!

[Boxfan83]

The gym I go to is ran by ex fighters, pro mma fighters, and a certain former top middleweight contender who I will not name...

The Golden Gloves team here has won the title 3x in a row.

It's all 100% free. Down side is the place is tiny and PACKED as well as they are only open 3-4x per week for a couple of hours.

I think its safe to assume you are not in Southern Ca? We dont have many places where kids can train for free unfortunately. I wouldnt mind volunteering if I had more time and $. All I am trying to do is take advantage of an open market, people pay good money for their kids in sports especially here in SoCal. I do think its awesome though that your area does that for kids, keeps them off the streets and teaches them discipline, that the real way to prevent crime imo. Its funny when I was young there was a boys and girls club in the area where the neighborhood boys would go train or settle disputes but it lost funding and closed down, now there is a bunch of teenage tweakers that hang around that area...

[BG_Knocc_Out]

You CAN make money doing it, if done right. It's actually what I'm doing now, I make pretty decent money by owning my own personal training business. Now, fortunately, I make supplemental income by other sources, ie army reserves, as well as working out of a Title club one morning a week (great for leads on personal training), and acting as a substitute for coaching classes at a couple other boxing gyms.

As mentioned earlier, DO NOT UNDERSELL YOURSELF. Typically personal training at major fitness clubs will cost anywhere between 60-100 dollars a session. If you do outside training at an independent facility (99% of boxing gyms), you could probably work something out with the owners (they'll normally ask for a % of training profits).

Also, don't do it full time without education. I've got my CPT certificate through NASM, as well as specializations in Fitness Nutrition and Performance Enhancement. I made sure I was well rounded.

Also, depending on your boxing experience, that accounts for a lot. Not sure how many fights you got, but make sure your boxing knowledge isn't from freakin' YouTube.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

I think its safe to assume you are not in Southern Ca? We dont have many places where kids can train for free unfortunately. I wouldnt mind volunteering if I had more time and $. All I am trying to do is take advantage of an open market, people pay good money for their kids in sports especially here in SoCal. I do think its awesome though that your area does that for kids, keeps them off the streets and teaches them discipline, that the real way to prevent crime imo. Its funny when I was young there was a boys and girls club in the area where the neighborhood boys would go train or settle disputes but it lost funding and closed down, now there is a bunch of teenage tweakers that hang around that area...

Yeah, that's exactly what it's for. One of the guys that runs it is also a cop so it creates a beater relationship with the community and police. There aren't any "real" boxing gyms where i'm, at. The economy is really low so nobody can afford it. We have a few PAL's here and a couple other gyms ran like mine is. I probably wouldn't have pursued boxing as an interest if this gym wasn't here. It's been a blessing.

[watchayouhead]

I fought out of Sam Boardman's Boxing Club in Denver in the 80's, and he charged 30 bucks a month gym dues, but he used to put on small exhibitions in the gym about once a month, and if you fought 4 rounds in the exhibition you wouldnt have to pay dues.
The monthly exhibitions sold about 100 tickets at 20 bucks a pop.

He would charge wannabes 90 bucks a month for lessons, but they would never take a fight, or rarely spar.

I used to help train amateurs in the 90's in Pennsylvania, they got free gym dues to fight at shows too. The gym would take them to the fights in the gym van and then the gym would keep their travel / showup money.

I wouldn't pay anybody for boxing lessons, you learn more in 10 amateur fights than you do in 10 years of lessons.
Sparring before your first fight is a good teacher.

[stephenmc]

I think I picking this up wrong....
Is it that your looking for prices for like lets say personal training stuff, normal gym/fitness kinda things??

Cause as you mentioned...boxing clubs are strictly non-profit..... Once your club is aligned with any organization to compete amateur, aiba etc.. Then it is non-profit and the money must be recycled back into the club ( trips,shows, upkeep etc...)

But if its personal training stuff, then ya man, I presume your in America, id say their is a good market their...
Theirs certainly alot of fools you could take off this place seen as they non stop post about wanting to "train" haha

[stephenmc]

After reading again i think I understand..
Well your not going to make money as a coach..end of...
The way boxing coach's make their money is the likes of private lessons, if your setting up, hold boxercise classes...that way the money you make from one-one lessons and the boxercise would be your own... Boxercise is fairly good way for a coach to make money as it is not difficult and its mostly just women trying to stay fit or lose a few pounds while with their friends......
Then maybe word of mouth might get around and youl get a women who might be getting married and you charge whatever for one-one sessions and all that stuff
Good luck anyway, but put any notion of making money from boxing alone (fighters) out of your head