Lewis vs. prime Tyson... who would have won?

[RAESAAD]

yeah they r good jabbers.but i think tyson would jus turn to feints like he did so often to get passed the jabs. he was really quick in getting in fast.

Well basically it could have went either way we both know that.......just my opinions.How has your training and **** going?

[tenPt]

Well basically it could have went either way we both know that.......just my opinions.How has your training and **** going?

what training.ahahaha i've been workin 60+ hour shifts 5 and 6 days a week. i havnt been to boxing in 3 months.it slowed down now so i will be back probably tommorrow.and im in my cpimp name cause anorak blocked me from this thread.and u know me and tyson

[La_Vibora]

Lewis would have stopped him still unless Mike landed the big one which would be entirely possible.....but I think Lennox would have fought smart like he did against Tua and still won.I mean saying Tyson would win is kind of like saying Buster was better in his prime than Lennox and thats just not true.......

Oh come on now. Tua is no prime Mike Tyson, that is for sure, hell the Tua that Lewis fought wasn't even a prime Tua either, at that point, he had become a fat plodding one armed heavyeweight. All Tua has is a left hook and nothing else.He hasno jab, no head movement, not so great footwork, and he was very poorly conditioned for that fight. There was absolutely no reason why he shouldn't have came into that fight at 225 lbs or so, instead he came in at about 25 lbs overweight. All Lewis did was jab Tua since he was too slow(from being out of shape) with too poor of a footwork to get on the inside of Lewis' jab, then on the rare occassions that Tua did get on the inside, all Lewis had to do was keep his right hand up so he can't land the left hook, and then tie him up.

A prime Tyson had quick feet as well as excellent footwork to manuever inside, as well as a very underrated jab to help close the distance. Not only that, but Tyson's crouching style would have made it very difficult for Lewis to land a clean blow on Mike. Also, when Mike got on the inside, he would have had some crushing blows to the body for him, instead of constantly head hunting like Tua did.

[The Noose]

Tyson at his best was an expert at cutting down the space between him and his opponents. He had to be able to do that in order to neutralize the bigger guys jabs.
Thats wat made him so good. And wat he stopped doing against Douglas and Bruno. He became an easy target.

[RAESAAD]

Oh come on now. Tua is no prime Mike Tyson, that is for sure, hell the Tua that Lewis fought wasn't even a prime Tua either, at that point, he had become a fat plodding one armed heavyeweight. All Tua has is a left hook and nothing else.He hasno jab, no head movement, not so great footwork, and he was very poorly conditioned for that fight. There was absolutely no reason why he shouldn't have came into that fight at 225 lbs or so, instead he came in at about 25 lbs overweight. All Lewis did was jab Tua since he was too slow(from being out of shape) with too poor of a footwork to get on the inside of Lewis' jab, then on the rare occassions that Tua did get on the inside, all Lewis had to do was keep his right hand up so he can't land the left hook, and then tie him up.

A prime Tyson had quick feet as well as excellent footwork to manuever inside, as well as a very underrated jab to help close the distance. Not only that, but Tyson's crouching style would have made it very difficult for Lewis to land a clean blow on Mike. Also, when Mike got on the inside, he would have had some crushing blows to the body for him, instead of constantly head hunting like Tua did.

Good points but we all have our own opinion and I still think a Prime Lewis would have been smart enough to beat Tyson one way or another.......But you are right it could have resulted in a quick KO for Tyson too.......we will never know.What I do know is when they fought they were relatively the same age and stages in their careers....one was good early and one was at his best for alot longer........Lewis overall is a better HW than Tyson was.

[La_Vibora]

Tyson at his best was an expert at cutting down the space between him and his opponents. He had to be able to do that in order to neutralize the bigger guys jabs.
Thats wat made him so good. And wat he stopped doing against Douglas and Bruno. He became an easy target.

Good point! I certanly agree with that. It seems like after the Spinks fight, he became very ****y about his power, and began just looking for the one punch KO more than closing the distance with his jab, as well as head movement coming in. He fought very straight forward at that point.

[La_Vibora]

Good points but we all have our own opinion and I still think a Prime Lewis would have been smart enough to beat Tyson one way or another.......But you are right it could have resulted in a quick KO for Tyson too.......we will never know.What I do know is when they fought they were relatively the same age and stages in their careers....one was good early and one was at his best for alot longer........Lewis overall is a better HW than Tyson was.

Even though I strongly disagree with your last point, I do agree that we all have our own opinions, and that there is unfortunately no way to find out. I think LEwis would have been tailor made for a prime Tyson, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[The Noose]

Good point! I certanly agree with that. It seems like after the Spinks fight, he became very ****y about his power, and began just looking for the one punch KO more than closing the distance with his jab, as well as head movement coming in. He fought very straight forward at that point.

Its amazing the difference in Tyson wen Rooney left his corner.
He was lunging in and not jabbing in the Bruno fight.

In fact i watched a few fights last night, from Holmes and Spinks to Douglas and Stewart. Although i have seen his fights many times, watching them last night he was really technically brilliant at his best.
He wasnt just a one dimensional KO fighter. He could jab and pressure opponents using his skills and attributes perfectly.

[La_Vibora]

Its amazing the difference in Tyson wen Rooney left his corner.
He was lunging in and not jabbing in the Bruno fight.

In fact i watched a few fights last night, from Holmes and Spinks to Douglas and Stewart. Although i have seen his fights many times, watching them last night he was really technically brilliant at his best.
He wasnt just a one dimensional KO fighter. He could jab and pressure opponents using his skills and attributes perfectly.

You know something? Til this day, I wish that after Mike got rid of Rooney, that he would have hired Eddie Futch to be his trainer. I think he would have been the perfect trainer to pick up where Cus left off and perhaps even help Mike become an even better fighter. I think had that happen, Mike could have had a Joe Louis kind of reign(assuming he stayed out of trouble and listened to Eddie).

[The Noose]

Yea, although a great fighter, Tyson was totally reliant on proper guidence from his corner and trainers.