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    #71
    I've watched boxing since the early 90s, and the best two boxers I have ever seen in my time are Floyd Mayweather and Tyson Fury.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
      Its very hard to accept your word because I seen the fight, I seen Cottos head falling apart like a hammer hitting a tomato, I remember thinking wtf is going on Margarito has never punched this hard before or after that night, something went on .
      Another thing I forgot to include. Cotto didn't give in until I think, maybe the 10th, and Margarito took loads of punishment on the way. If Margarito had ANYTHING in his gloves to cause damage, it would have happened LOOONG before rd 10

      That's why I call him "poor buy" because he was totally innocent. I'm very careful about what I assert to be true, and have already examined what I intend to say about 10 different ways.
      In my youth, I was a Law student in University, and during that time also worked for 4 years in the office of a distinguished lawyer later a Judge. In ancient legal parlance he was my "Master"...So I don't make assertions without knowing, or at the very least, examining the evidence. I take nobody's word. alone.

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        #73
        Originally posted by edgarg View Post
        Another thing I forgot to include. Cotto didn't give in until I think, maybe the 10th, and Margarito took loads of punishment on the way. If Margarito had ANYTHING in his gloves to cause damage, it would have happened LOOONG before rd 10

        That's why I call him "poor buy" because he was totally innocent. I'm very careful about what I assert to be true, and have already examined what I intend to say about 10 different ways.
        In my youth, I was a Law student in University, and during that time also worked for 4 years in the office of a distinguished lawyer later a Judge. In ancient legal parlance he was my "Master"...So I don't make assertions without knowing, or at the very least, examining the evidence. I take nobody's word. alone.
        He has never before or after that fight damaged a guy like that, he may have had enough by the 10th but he was breaking up much earlier, Cotto said he never felt punches like these they felt like bricks, its all relevant you are looking only at what can be proved in court and we all know how that can go, often its very hard to prove things in law.

        A big thing not mentioned is the wraps that were in court were from the Mosley fight were not the Cotto fight.
        Last edited by Roadblock; 01-13-2021, 12:47 AM.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Nash out View Post
          I've watched boxing since the early 90s, and the best two boxers I have ever seen in my time are Floyd Mayweather and Tyson Fury.
          Been watching since early 70’s.

          Watch more old skool boxers

          You, like my son only buy what you grew up on.

          Now I gotta do some road work.

          Jhonny running up hills and tubing on the beach

          Stay lean and exercise

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            #75
            Originally posted by edgarg View Post
            IRON (Block)HEAD DAN, you obviously haven't read my post. The legal Documents from the enquiries are FREE to read on the internet. I read every single word that was written at that very time, and what I'm telling you is accurate and truthful. It was merely a used flimsy gauze pad, exactly like a new gauze pad, except that it was USED. If you can't accept ,TRUTH, you are no better that the rest of that brainless lemming follow-the-leader mob.

            I always thought you had good sense. USE IT.

            The microscopic elements of P and P (2) found only by using a high-powered Electron Microscope, were commonly used in nearly ALL cosmetics, and were also to be found in every kitchen on the Globe. (Most likely just a grain of talcum powder). This is straight from the legal documental finding.

            READ the Legal Documents. If there was not such a fuss to upset Margarite with common boxing head tactics, nothing would have been said about it. The Commissioner who was the first to inspect the pad said "it was just an ordinary used gauze knuckle pad, with a couple of water or sweat spots on it.""


            READ the LEGAL EVIDENCE..... You know damned well why Margarito was found innocent only because fo the fuss so the Commission said, "you are the captain of your ship" and he got that 1 year minimum suspension.

            I don't know why I waste my valuable time arguing with nincomdreks
            I don’t know he was found innocent.

            He was voted 7-0 to have his license removed.

            Where is your source that he was seen innocent?

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              #76
              Originally posted by Golgo 13 View Post
              Winky Wright
              Kostya Tszyu
              Paul Williams
              Antonio Margarito
              Prime Mosley
              Prime Cotto
              Prime Pacquiao
              Prime King Khan
              Tim Bradley
              GGG @154
              Assuming a fair weight in all those fights as well, I think Winky, Mosley, Cotto, Pac and GGG all have a good chance.

              Winky is lefty, smart and fairly awkward. I could see a close fight. Mosley, Cotto, and Pac are all quick, active, durable, and talented. I could see those fights being close or even a clear winner in favor of one of those 3.

              No one knows how GGG would really look at 154 so it's hard to say. Worst case for him it probably goes something similar to the two Maidana fights. GGG realized early that 'boxing' Brook wasn't the right move; I'm sure he would figure that out with Floyd early as well.

              Khan would go something like Khan-Canelo and Mayweather-Ortiz. Floyd is just too smart and Khan too error prone. No way he lasts 12 rounds without Floyd capitalizing on a mistake, or setting him up.

              Similarly, Floyd would always be too smart for Paul Williams over 12 rounds. I don't think Bradley would have troubled Floyd either.
              Last edited by Boxing-1013; 01-13-2021, 01:06 AM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by HewJohnson View Post
                Becaus Floyd’s fighting style was strictly defensive with lots of clinching, running, and avoiding combat and using IQ. Being prime or not doesn’t really affect that style, at all.

                Where as somebody like Pacquiao whom during his prime utilized his speed, power and high offensive output is completely dictated by him being in his prime.
                You are clealry foreign to mayweather then. Mayweather also utilized reflexes and fast counter punching. He was faster in 2010 then in 2015. And please go watch floyd fights at 130-140 and come back here and call him a runner.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by HewJohnson View Post
                  Becaus Floyd’s fighting style was strictly defensive with lots of clinching, running, and avoiding combat and using IQ. Being prime or not doesn’t really affect that style, at all.

                  Where as somebody like Pacquiao whom during his prime utilized his speed, power and high offensive output is completely dictated by him being in his prime.
                  You know very little about Mayweather. Jesus Christ. Go watch 130-135 Floyd and get educated.



                  Last edited by RespekonMyName; 01-13-2021, 01:08 AM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                    Been watching since early 70’s.

                    Watch more old skool boxers

                    You, like my son only buy what you grew up on.

                    Now I gotta do some road work.

                    Jhonny running up hills and tubing on the beach

                    Stay lean and exercise
                    You realize mayweather trained like an old school boxer right when he was younger?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by boogbx View Post
                      No.

                      Paul especially had the skills and chin to beat Money at 147.

                      While Paul Williams was vulnerable as shown by Quintana and Martinez, he was also Looking past Quintana.

                      He would’ve been focused and ready for Money and brittle
                      Hands Mayweather wouldn’t have been able to deal
                      With the onslaught.

                      Remember at 135 he went life and death with Jose Luis Castillo, yall
                      Truly believe he wouldn’t have problems at 147?

                      He always picked fighters he could Move from. That’s why as much as I hate Margarito, at the time when he was calling out Mayweather after ripping off Sebastian Lujuans ear I gave him a serious shot to be Mayweather.

                      Then we get to Winly an ATG at 154 arguably the greatest super welter ever. At 154 which was way out of Mayweather range but still many a great chases greatness. With Winky Floyd would’ve ran into a vicious brick wall. Wright beats him soundly.
                      This is extremely funny.

                      Floyd "picked" shane mosley when shane mosley had absolutely dominated Margarito.

                      Floyd "picked" Canelo who was the toughest opponent on paper and many believed he would win. After, people like you made more excuses then the mike tyson fanbase itself.

                      Floyd "picked" Pacman when Pacman had rejuvinated himself following his loss to Marquez. (BTW- Floyd began showing his age in the maidana fights).

                      Floyd "picked" De La Hoya and Cotto by challenging them at their more natural weights (unlike pacquiao who made the two kill themselves to make weight.

                      Floyd "picked" to fight Angel Manfredy right after he won his title.

                      Floyd "picked" Castillo by moving up in weight to 135 and fighting him his FIRST FIGHT at that weight.

                      Floyd "picked" Diego Corrales

                      Floyd haters are some of the most delusional people to ever exist. He somehow ducked Margarito by fighting the guy who absolutely demolished him and was the top dog at Welterweight.

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