Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo, Spence-Crawford, GGG, Loma-Lopez, More

[TonyGe]

People “believe?” You mean boxers believing?

Jrock. Plant. Jacobs. Andrade. Haney.

SNAC boys

Jacobs and Haney didn't look to be any different in the ring after Conte. Danny fought like he usually did and Haney dominated Gamboa like everyone expected him to do.

[kushking]

Fielding may not be a bum but he's not a good fighter. Smith suffered an arm injury. If anyone thinks that didn't affect his performance has rocks in their head instead of brains.

Feilding was a clear cherrypick(coulda been way worse like 99% of fighters face),but Canelo earned that showcase victory lap fight a mere few weeks after he beat ggg & it was a few months before Champ Jacobs.

Feilding had no chance whatsoever,& Smith DIDN'T "suffer an arm injury"(foh) he was "inflicted an arm injury"by his opponents gameplan of making him pay for blocking his shots,

Canelo broke smiths arm basically by smashing it with his fist on purpose, if you can't see that he targeted that arm your not paying attention(punching shoulder & arm is old school style way to chop a tree with a great jab)

Smiths teams on damage control using the injury like it doesn't equate to saying"I woulda won had I not got my face broken"(the irony is Brook did say that)

[TonyGe]

Feilding was a clear cherrypick(coulda been way worse like 99% of fighters face),but Canelo earned that showcase victory lap fight a mere few weeks after he beat ggg & it was a few months before Champ Jacobs.

Feilding had no chance whatsoever,& Smith DIDN'T "suffer an arm injury"(foh) he was "inflicted an arm injury"by his opponents gameplan of making him pay for blocking his shots,

Canelo broke smiths arm basically by smashing it with his fist on purpose, if you can't see that he targeted that arm your not paying attention(punching shoulder & arm is old school style way to chop a tree with a great jab)

Smiths teams on damage control using the injury like it doesn't equate to saying"I woulda won had I not got my face broken"(the irony is Brook did say that)

How often do you see a fighter suffer a detached bicep in the ring from being punched. Even Marciano who was known for targeting the arms of his opponent didn't do that as far as I know and Marciano was a harder puncher than Canelo pound for pound. I guess it's possible but not likely. If he did cause the injury to Smith I give him credit but like I said I'm doubtful. The most common cause is hyper extension of the arm.

[TheUptownKid]

Jack Johnson was never p4p?

[kushking]

How often do you see a fighter suffer a detached bicep in the ring from being punched. Even Marciano who was known for targeting the arms of his opponent didn't do that as far as I know and Marciano was a harder puncher than Canelo pound for pound. I guess it's possible but not likely. If he did cause the injury to Smith I give him credit but like I said I'm doubtful. The most common cause is hyper extension of the arm.

Theres an article on this site that quotes Smith, you should read it. Its hilarious

Watch the fight again & you'll see it was intentional (Canelos faster than a hw,so of course its easier for him to do it because speed + power equals total force)

Smith said after the fight that he knew right away Canelo was aiming to hurt his arm,he said that he told his trainer in the corner"this guys trying to fckin break my arm" he said after the 2nd round Canelo hitting his arm fvked up his whole gameplan because he couldn't throw the jab(his best punch) he said that hes never been hit like that so often in the arms so hard,- that he didn't know what to do because even though he was blocking Canelo,that Canelo was outright targeting his arm instead & that he couldn't find a way to block without getting arm destroyed, he then said that Canelo stopped hitting his arm halfway jn the 12th because he must've realized Smith wasn't getting kod.

[ShoulderRoll]

Calling someone a gun while discrediting them literally making history with Titles accumulated & fought for in a row,while bigging up Bud & saying "hes better because he beats bums good" is not respect.Bud whos faced nothing but cherrypicked no hopers for the last half decade & struggled against a retired drive by victim with 1 leg,is called #1 p4p while the guy who won 3 belts & lineal in 3 divisions (he basically was undisputed at mw,he won all 4 belts(the highest honor in boxing is being called p4p king & Bud is not it) Thats Respect according to you?

Can't you see Breadman calling Canelo a gun is like him saying"yeah he alright too"(in other words Bread is as biased as they come while pretending hes not,it doesn't get worse than saying ggg & mung-ai is a 50-50 fight or that Canelo fighting Smith is the same as Bud vs Brook,that has to be the dumbest *** hes ever said to justify his revisionism,

hes put up every roadblock imaginable about giving Canelo credit yet makes every excuse about other fighters like the charlos whom went missing from VADA & were ghost over a week, then they had a lame ass excuse,& warent punished despite vada rules,& WM jr getting banned for testosterone vs Charlo in same fight.(according to Bread Canelo aint sht til he beats Charlo(a pbc fighter whom beat his fighter by ko so he loves them)

Bread literally started rating Inoue p4p#2 after Loma his golden goose lost as I said he would all along to Lopez.

Suddenly Because Inoue beat a 40 yr old replacement opponent in drained Donaire,(got his face broken doing it)hes p4p#1-2 because Canelo will never be recognized by those who hate him like espn staff & bread.

Bread knows no bounds to his goalpost moving. I guess you don't remember when Bread was saying that Feilding was a bum & Canelo Didn't beat Smith the real champ.

It's asinine to say that Inoue has never had a controversial decision. When you don't fight killers you're not going to be in close fights.

Bread managed to twist things so that a valid criticism of Inoue turned into a strength. And a valid strength of Canelo (his strong resume) got turned into a negative.

Bunch of bullcrap.

[TheUptownKid]

I finally have found a way to make Bud fans understand why not only is Bud not p4p king, Spence should rank far higher in p4p,heres an example:


Imagine if Canelo wasn't a draw,& had faced Lara & beefy Smith,kod them,then went on to fight Feilding,& old washed up Murray level opponents for 5 years straight at MW,

then imagine a champ Jacobs went on to fight everyone Canelo has fought in real life & Ggg too & wins, & then Jacobs becomes a ppv star & doesn't want to fight Canelo Because hes busy fighting beltholders back to back & the last remaining champ who hasn't faced anyone good in 5 years,Canelo is saying he calls the shots,wants A side vs Jacobs,& that he doesn't need Jacobs & is happy bumslaying,

Then imagine if the entire boxing world not only rated Canelo p4p#1 & also rated him several spots above this hypothetical version of Jacobs & says Jacobs is ducking for not giving Canelo the A side,

Imagine they say that 33 yr old hypothetical Canelo is better than hypothetical 30 yo version of Ward whom has belts in 4 divisions he didn't lose in,along with multiple lineal wins,

If this alternate reality was real it would be identical to Bud being overrated af & p4p he currently is,& it'd be a travesty against Spence(Jacobs) whose actually earned his A side status,fame,& resume.

It'd be the same travesty as irl rating Bud over Canelo in any way shape or form,even eye test.

The irony is Canelo in this example is Ward,whom was considered p4p#1 by Bread once Floyd retired

P4p is an opinion anyway so why waste all of these paragraphs? I have a way to convince canelo fans he’s not #1 p4p, cheating. Questionable decisions. Lackluster victories. But it’s your opinion at the end of the day so who cares? This does not sway me in any way from my p4p pick

[kushking]

P4p is an opinion anyway so why waste all of these paragraphs? I have a way to convince canelo fans he’s not #1 p4p, cheating. Questionable decisions. Lackluster victories. But it’s your opinion at the end of the day so who cares? This does not sway me in any way from my p4p pick

P4p is the ultimate honor in boxing & holds tremendous weight on legacy. If every media p4p erroneously hates on certain fighters while claiming others who do nothing to earn it are #1,they are helping the fake fighter continue cherrypicking while pretending to be the best & getting called atg anyways.

Ppl like Bread hold a lot of sway for they are the ones whom write history one way or another.

We all discuss boxing because we love this sport,so when fighters like Crawford are overhyped they behave like divas & we get sht fights outta them,only by telling bud his resume stinks for the supposed best, will he step it up. Breads a good dude,hes just biased af.

[Bandman]

Damn Bread has a lot of love for Canelo's win vs Callum. It wasn't really that impressive when Ryder did it first but oh well...

And Munguia most likely ends up dying vs GGG. 50/50?

but great bag

[TonyGe]

Theres an article on this site that quotes Smith, you should read it. Its hilarious

Watch the fight again & you'll see it was intentional (Canelos faster than a hw,so of course its easier for him to do it because speed + power equals total force)

Smith said after the fight that he knew right away Canelo was aiming to hurt his arm,he said that he told his trainer in the corner"this guys trying to fckin break my arm" he said after the 2nd round Canelo hitting his arm fvked up his whole gameplan because he couldn't throw the jab(his best punch) he said that hes never been hit like that so often in the arms so hard,- that he didn't know what to do because even though he was blocking Canelo,that Canelo was outright targeting his arm instead & that he couldn't find a way to block without getting arm destroyed, he then said that Canelo stopped hitting his arm halfway jn the 12th because he must've realized Smith wasn't getting kod.

I know it was intentional but to have that kind of effect?? To actually tear the bicep. I'm not sold on that.