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    #21
    Originally posted by VashDBasher View Post
    Ramirez has had terrible management. He needs to fight a big name opponent and make a statement in that fight by putting on an impressive performance. He didn’t look too good during his rematch with Jesse Hart.
    He looked like **** in BOTH fights against Jesse Hart. So if you're Bob Arum, how the **** do you manage him?

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      #22
      175 just went Ice Cold after Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk it seems neither are very active either Beterbiev and Bivol haven't fought in a year! I know it is a Pancemic but where is the HYPE for Beterbiev vs Bivol? Do fans even want to see that fight? Hopefully things pick back up for that Division

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        #23
        He has literally been saying this exact thing for 73 years. He was Bob Arum’s first fighter

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          #24
          Originally posted by Silver Spear View Post
          "So why isn’t he a mainstream star in today’s boxing galaxy?"

          Easy answer. Promoter. Now that he is promoting himself maybe he will finally fight some big names but he also has to make a name for himself again. Only time will tell.
          Promoter??? But Bob said he loves promoting Mexican fighters as opposed to black fighters. I don't know if it's the promoter in this case. Zurdo's career trajectory reminds me a lot of Andrade and Gary Russell Jr.

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            #25
            First of all, I respect anyone willing to bet on himself. The upside to this is that even if it does not turn into a monster company, he will reap the benefits directly for whatever success there is. I hope his production company takes off.

            Secondly, I kind of feel in a years time we will see if it was Top Rank or him. The downside to betting on yourself is you are out of people to point fingers at if it fails.

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              #26
              Originally posted by landotter View Post
              First of all, I respect anyone willing to bet on himself. The upside to this is that even if it does not turn into a monster company, he will reap the benefits directly for whatever success there is. I hope his production company takes off.

              Secondly, I kind of feel in a years time we will see if it was Top Rank or him. The downside to betting on yourself is you are out of people to point fingers at if it fails.
              Great post and I wholeheartedly agree. I wish more big name fighters would bet on themselves and hopefully this will start a trend.

              Just imagine the fights we would get to see if even half of the top 10 in each division were promoting themselves?

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                #27
                Que guapo!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by whollisboxing View Post
                  Great post and I wholeheartedly agree. I wish more big name fighters would bet on themselves and hopefully this will start a trend.

                  Just imagine the fights we would get to see if even half of the top 10 in each division were promoting themselves?
                  whollisboxing…. Wow. That would be the wild, wild west and so much fun.

                  I am grinning just imagining it. Now I am cheering for Ramirez and Alvarez to make just truckloads of money and watch the dominoes fall.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by landotter View Post
                    whollisboxing? Wow. That would be the wild, wild west and so much fun.

                    I am grinning just imagining it. Now I am cheering for Ramirez and Alvarez to make just truckloads of money and watch the dominoes fall.
                    It would definitely be great to see, and I'm not saying every fighter could do it but the biggest names don't need promoters. Guys like Canelo, and Gilberto Ramirez to a lesser extent, are popular enough to promote themselves and deal with networks directly.

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                      #30
                      I was interested until I saw the 25 bucks to watch it. Honestly work a deal somehow get shown somewhere somehow if you want to be a name forget the money and this is money driven. I dont dislike the guy I would like to see him roll off 2-3 fights a year with good competition but that is true of how I feel of most fighters who have some talent. It is this push for a $ 25 fee. I dont see that going anywhere in helping himself. His name will not show any brighter like that. Make the noise in the ring and be accessable as a fighter that means stay away from fee's for fights. Everybody wants to take from boxing anymore. he is going to go off the radar playing his hand like this for the dollars. Hope he proves me wrong. See you on YouTube man.
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