Dubois' problem goes beyond quitting.

[Fighter78]

daniel dubious is a broken man. the coward will just go back to bullying bums

Yep...its back to UK domestic level obscurity for triple "knee" Daniel dubious Dubois

[foggy]

Dubois corner were trying to gee him up after every round, like they were trying to keep him in it. All mental and emotional support. Either he really needs that when the going isn't easy, or they didn't have the capability to offer technical advice.

Either way there are some big holes in the overall game of Dubois and corner. He looked a very young man between rounds. Joyce didn't so much as change his expression from walking in, until they interviewed him after the fight, and he finally smiled. There was no questioning his fight conditioning, he knows how hard the game is.

[Mindgames]

daniel dubious is a broken man. the coward will just go back to bullying bums

Frank will rebuild him ,while giving no credit to Joe at all ,talking as if it was an accident that he won.

[Mindgames]

Yeah I agree, it’s not the end of the road but it’s a long road back.

A very long one.Of course Frank is the master of long periods of hes guys fighting nobodies while inventing every excuse under the sun as to why he lost by some accident or fluke.

[Earl-Hickey]

Honestly the fact is Dubois just isn't that good.

Frank Warren got jealous of AJ and wanted to create one of his own so he plucked Dubois out of nowhere, put the full force of Queensbury promotions behind him and sent him to the moon.

But in the end, Dubois just isn't that good, he's just a big strong guy with power and OK fundamentals, they aren't that rare to come by in boxing.

I was fairly sure Joyce would handle him all along although I did buy into a bit of the hype, but it's not like this or that went wrong for Dubois he just lost to a much better fighter. That's all this was.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

A very long one.Of course Frank is the master of long periods of hes guys fighting nobodies while inventing every excuse under the sun as to why he lost by some accident or fluke.

He’s very good at building fighters too. He didn’t really want to rush Dubois, but the pressure from BT forced him into a matchup he hasn’t prepared for.

[Ray*]

I think some of us have mentioned it already. They definitely act like amateurs themselves, he should have been pulled out just before that round. He wasn’t seeing anything, he wasn’t moving his head neither through out the fight. They didn’t put a lot of confidence in him by panicking around the 5th round, telling him he is in a fight now. Am sure Warren would look at it like he did with Yarde and Tunde. They could have saved him from making him quit by himself, he was left alone and hanged out to dry.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Dubois still can be world champ clearly.

Let`s see his future opponents:

East Euros, like Sirenko, Dychko, Makhmudov: they fight bums only. We don`t know how good they are.

Hrgovic fights bums and old washed up Americans that were never any good.

Ajagba was dropped by Kiladze. Looks solid ad best against C - D level guys.

Yoka struggled badly with Hammer.

Let`s just dont act like Dubois is not good enough to beat those guys in the future.

[evets]

I think some of us have mentioned it already. They definitely act like amateurs themselves, he should have been pulled out just before that round. He wasn’t seeing anything, he wasn’t moving his head neither through out the fight. They didn’t put a lot of confidence in him by panicking around the 5th round, telling him he is in a fight now. Am sure Warren would look at it like he did with Yarde and Tunde. They could have saved him from making him quit by himself, he was left alone and hanged out to dry.

Thanks, guess I missed it sometimes hard to keep on top of it. Glad I'm not alone. I understand people saying about the trainers mentality of fight game but a fighter really needs to have 100% confidence in his corner imo and to me it would be impossible after that. I also understand and like motivation in a corner, being told it's a fight or that you are a champion or that this is what all the training is for, but in the 11th/12 round maybe not the 5th. Also feel like if they knew their boxer well they would've known he wasn't standing from his face/body language and threw the towel in to save a little face.

On a funny side note this is a brutal blow against Warren in the Warren Hearn feud which he seems to take so much more seriously than the other side. Will be interesting to see what ******ity he does next. It was looking good for him he had a "stadium" fighter to fill football pitches in Warrington and the next Heavyweight champ in Dubois so was competing "well" but he has neither now, and without the Top Rank deal it would be really interesting.

[evets]

Dubois still can be world champ clearly.

Let`s see his future opponents:

East Euros, like Sirenko, Dychko, Makhmudov: they fight bums only. We don`t know how good they are.

Hrgovic fights bums and old washed up Americans that were never any good.

Ajagba was dropped by Kiladze. Looks solid ad best against C - D level guys.

Yoka struggled badly with Hammer.

Let`s just dont act like Dubois is not good enough to beat those guys in the future.

I mean partly that's why I'm questioning the corner. He seems to have some tools, big strong guy, diligent in his work ethic and someone that someone could be able to make something of, but he really did just seem lost when his punch didnt work on Joyce, even multiple.