The Myth of black decline and Eastern European dominance in boxing

[nubianpiye]

why should white people waste time fighting when they make stuff like this

😂 this is getting sad now plenty of white people are incredible fighters and I don't think otherwise the two biggest and by virtue of this best fighters in the world at the moment are Joshua and fury one of whom is white I never said white people can't fight and I wouldn't because that would not be true

[MoneyKasha]

😂 this is getting sad now plenty of white people are incredible fighters and I don't think otherwise the two biggest and by virtue of this best fighters in the world at the moment are Joshua and fury one of whom is white I never said white people can't fight and I wouldn't because that would not be true

sorry i might confuse with kid bazooka who is actually obsessed with race 24/7

[nubianpiye]

sorry i might confuse with kid bazooka who is actually obsessed with race 24/7

Fair enough don't respond in kind it makes it so you aren't any better than him.

[MoneyKasha]

Fair enough don't respond in kind it makes it so you aren't any better than him.

I'm clearly responding in a way to irritate him, but i only do it when he initiates it

literally every thing he talks about is race

[nubianpiye]

I'm clearly responding in a way to irritate him, but i only do it when he initiates it

literally every thing he talks about is race

Fair enough 👍🏿

[PhilSpektor39]

This thread was influenced by the Arum avoids black boxers post, and The Paulie Malignaggi comments that unfairly (in my opinion) led to his dismissal.

The narrative in boxing seems to be that Eastern Europeans now dominate boxing due in no part to fantastic fighters like Lomachenko and Beterbiev; however, in Boxing's 17 weight classes, we currently have 16 black champions of African descent whereas you currently have 8 champions of eastern European descent.

The Dominant nation is still America with 19 champions, and the United Kingdom, a tiny nation continues to punch above its weight with 6 champions despite having one-sixth the population of America.

Why does this myth of Eastern European dominance exist when they only have two more world champions than little Britain?

numbers and qaulity.

THere's only millions of Slavs. There are BILLIONS of Black people.

Eastern European fighters still come from MUCH more limited means.

Black fighters owe their development to White trainers - the ones who actually took a risk on them not being complete fook ups. Not really sure Black fighters proved them right, tbh. ANd to the wealth America has.

But really, Lomachenko is still the best P4P. ANd Usyk is right behind him = definitely the most skilled big man we've ever seen. The only Heavyweight in history who would beat the Klitchkos at their best is Fury, another White dude.


And let's not forget, Eastern Europeans STILL have other accomplishments to speak of. There's countless Eastern European Billionaires, leading academics, medical practitioners, scientists, artists, distillers, chefs, engineers, religious leaders, military professionals, etc. Really, Black people just don't represent in those fields in any measurable way comparable to Eastern Europeans. Hell, even the Klitchkos had their Doctorates.

[nubianpiye]

numbers and qaulity.

THere's only millions of Slavs. There are BILLIONS of Black people.

Eastern European fighters still come from MUCH more limited means.

Black fighters owe their development to White trainers - the ones who actually took a risk on them not being complete fook ups. Not really sure Black fighters proved them right, tbh. ANd to the wealth America has.

But really, Lomachenko is still the best P4P. ANd Usyk is right behind him = definitely the most skilled big man we've ever seen. The only Heavyweight in history who would beat the Klitchkos at their best is Fury, another White dude.


And let's not forget, Eastern Europeans STILL have other accomplishments to speak of. There's countless Eastern European Billionaires, leading academics, medical practitioners, scientists, artists, distillers, chefs, engineers, religious leaders, military professionals, etc. Really, Black people just don't represent in those fields in any measurable way comparable to Eastern Europeans. Hell, even the Klitchkos had their Doctorates.

You are having a full on melt down aren’t you there fella? Calm down the world won’t end because your messiah lost

[Bigblackted44]

You are not very different, 400 years of slavery did not genetically change African American's. This ideology you are taking on board is racist, and is used to discredit Black people even more.

So white people are responsible for Black athletes success? Sort yourself out 'You are acting and typing like a backwards chump'.

The same could be stated about white people? There is no such thing as a 100% pure white race, if you want to get real technical about it 'If you want to get real scientific, there is the black race and then everyone else is a variation of black'.

There is not a single race of people on this planet, who does not have blackness in their genetics 'Black people are ground zero of humanity'.

That is science.

Note: I don't usually get involved in debates like this, but goodness me? There are some complete weasels knocking about here.

Overall that is a very ill informed ideology you are taking on Bigblackted44,. Very very low perception of themselves African American's seem to have, and this has all been engineered.

I never said anything about White people being responsible for anything. When you take a group of people and place them in two totally different places for 400 years they do not magically stay the same people. Your an idiot with an agenda that came on here trying to kick knowledge and call somebody when your whole reply was an inference. Are white Americans that have been over here since the 1600 the same as people starlight from Europe, of course not.

All I said was that we are different genetically. This is true. Your arguing science if you say otherwise. Africans are also great at sports so why are you bringing white people into this when I said nothing about white people.

I in fact have a high perception of myself, maybe you need to look into the mirror and think about what you think of black people for you to go on this disgusting rant without even asking for a clarification of what I meant and inferring that I have low self esteem or that I think White people made black great athletes or that I give af who has black blood or not.

Also if your going to correct somebody in the name is science be all the way right and not say half truths.

[MoneyKasha]

This thread was influenced by the Arum avoids black boxers post, and The Paulie Malignaggi comments that unfairly (in my opinion) led to his dismissal.

The narrative in boxing seems to be that Eastern Europeans now dominate boxing due in no part to fantastic fighters like Lomachenko and Beterbiev; however, in Boxing's 17 weight classes, we currently have 16 black champions of African descent whereas you currently have 8 champions of eastern European descent.

The Dominant nation is still America with 19 champions, and the United Kingdom, a tiny nation continues to punch above its weight with 6 champions despite having one-sixth the population of America.

Why does this myth of Eastern European dominance exist when they only have two more world champions than little Britain?

Eastern Europeans don't really care about the midget weights that much so its not really a good comparison

[DaNeutral.]

Wow 13 pages of this? Such a shame that Whites, blacks and Latino' feel the need to do this who is dominating what nonsense. I was guna call it whipping them out and having a **** measuring contest but that won't work lol.

Its just Boxing.