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    #51
    Originally posted by alexnation View Post
    They just don't have the balls to admit that Loma is on another level. Some people have no joy in their lives but to come here and release their baseless hate
    Honestly I don't see what they're pretending to see. I've watched like the last 5 fights that Lopez had and was not impressed.

    Hes a lot like Wilder in the sense where his fundamentals need work but he leans on his athletism to carry him.

    Hes ALWAYS looking to land one shot that can change the fight. How is that different than Wilder?

    Wilder likes to come forward with his aggression and Teofimo likes to "counter punch". A lot of what Teofimo does is like watching an amateur compile a hit list of moves that he can mimick.

    Floyds pull counter
    RJJ leaping hook
    Toneys shoulder roll/uppercut

    He falls in love with these moves and tries to force them over and over.

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      #52
      Originally posted by just the facts View Post
      Terrance Crawford is a substantially better fighter than Jeff Horn could ever dream of being. That’s a fact and it’s passed time for you to accept that.
      You didn't state a fact. You stated your opinion.

      Let me help you out.

      Terence Crawford (spell the man's correctly at least) is a SMARTER fighter than Jeff Horn could ever dream of being.

      Why?
      • Refuse to fight in Australia on Horn's terms (Manny did it with Horn, Spence did it with Brook)
      • Faked a hand injury to delay the fight and throw off Horn's camp, got caught on film taking snaps of Top Rank ring girls with a perfectly healthy hand, gave him an advantage because Horn's camp process was thrown off significantly


      Basically, do everything you can to take Horn's advantage from him.

      Fair play to him. But THAT is the truth of what happened.

      Doesn't Crawford a "better" fighter, it makes him smarter, and it's time you and others accept that.

      NOW...let's get back on target. Let's talk FACTS about Lopez getting schooled by Lomachenko. Don't try the Chewbacca Defense with me, it won't work.

      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 10-16-2020, 12:38 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by lolpz View Post
        You talk about speaking facts but then you say Lopez has NOTHING but a puncher's chance.

        This is a guy who can really box and has skills/speed.
        He can box?

        I mean, FFS, how many times do I need to share this video from two MULTI-TIME CHAMPIONS telling you Lopez's one-dimensional strategy?




        Originally posted by lolpz View Post
        Fact check this: Linares gave Lomachenko hell and put him on his ass until he ran out of gas. Loma's gas tank won him that fight. Lopez is better then Linares.
        Linares gave him "hell"? Because he landed one good punch?

        Ok bro

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          #54
          Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post
          Honestly I don't see what they're pretending to see. I've watched like the last 5 fights that Lopez had and was not impressed.

          Hes a lot like Wilder in the sense where his fundamentals need work but he leans on his athletism to carry him.

          Hes ALWAYS looking to land one shot that can change the fight. How is that different than Wilder?

          Wilder likes to come forward with his aggression and Teofimo likes to "counter punch". A lot of what Teofimo does is like watching an amateur compile a hit list of moves that he can mimick.

          Floyds pull counter
          RJJ leaping hook
          Toneys shoulder roll/uppercut

          He falls in love with these moves and tries to force them over and over.
          To be honest, I think Lopez does have some technical skills as opposed to Wilder who completely relies on his windmill and knows no other dimensions of boxing. But yeah, the premise is similar

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            #55
            Originally posted by revelated View Post
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            I actually feel more confident, seeing Teo try to convince himself during the presser like Victor Ortiz.

            A bit of advice for you since we're a day away.

            I gave you notes, but I do suggest you research Crawford's ducking. Sherdog forums are a great resource, they speak the truth more than here.
            Won’t need it...because Loma’s going to sleep. Just make sure you send every point as soon as that happens

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              #56
              TS spews hate for the kid.
              Talked himself into the fight? Foh weirdo. He beat Commey who, when looking around here, people said he wouldnt even take the fight let alone win. He EARNED this fight. Period.
              Im not expecting him to win by any means, but foh with your bs
              Last edited by El_Mero; 10-16-2020, 02:29 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by alexnation View Post
                To be honest, I think Lopez does have some technical skills as opposed to Wilder who completely relies on his windmill and knows no other dimensions of boxing. But yeah, the premise is similar
                Wilder isn't a perfect apples to apples comparison but agreed. He does have some technical skill. Thats it. Its not outstanding.

                Wilder is one of those worst case scenarios because not only was he athletic like Teofimo but his size is ridiculous which lead him to bad habits such as extending outs out to block punches.

                Works against everyone but guys who are taller than you. Ahem. Fury.

                Lopez has a habit of getting out boxed until he gets frustrated and throws. I just rewatched a little over half the fight here during class and damn Lopez looked like ****. More **** than I remember him looking.

                Out of the first 6 rounds I gave him like 2. Any time they were boxing Lopez lost convincingly during exchanges until he decided to press forward and force exchanges.

                A lot of the punches he was pretty lucky to land imo because by bullying in he forced some 50/50 dangerous punches. Like he will over commit on a right hand that is slipped and then both guys throw lead hooks.

                I really can't wait for this fight to be over because its gotten ridiculous. Lopez is a good talent but thats it. Hes got a punchers chance and that's not a bad chance to have. Nothing on films suggests he has a chance. If we wins kudos.

                I mean. A dead clock is right twice a day and its boxing.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by PinkGod View Post
                  Won’t need it...because Loma’s going to sleep. Just make sure you send every point as soon as that happens
                  Yeah, somebody didn't watch the Nagatani fight. It's cool

                  Originally posted by El_Mero View Post
                  TS spews hate for the kid.
                  Talked himself into the fight? Foh weirdo. He beat Commey who, when looking around here, people said he wouldnt even take the fight let alone win. He EARNED this fight. Period.
                  Im not expecting him to win by any means, but foh with your bs
                  Earned. By taking a belt from a guy that shouldn't have had it?

                  And oh by the way, Teo himself said he talked himself into the fight. BoxingScene just shared an article from Teo's dad aka Ruben Guerrero Light doing more talking.

                  But it's cool

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post
                    Wilder isn't a perfect apples to apples comparison but agreed. He does have some technical skill. Thats it. Its not outstanding.

                    Wilder is one of those worst case scenarios because not only was he athletic like Teofimo but his size is ridiculous which lead him to bad habits such as extending outs out to block punches.

                    Works against everyone but guys who are taller than you. Ahem. Fury.

                    Lopez has a habit of getting out boxed until he gets frustrated and throws. I just rewatched a little over half the fight here during class and damn Lopez looked like ****. More **** than I remember him looking.

                    Out of the first 6 rounds I gave him like 2. Any time they were boxing Lopez lost convincingly during exchanges until he decided to press forward and force exchanges.

                    A lot of the punches he was pretty lucky to land imo because by bullying in he forced some 50/50 dangerous punches. Like he will over commit on a right hand that is slipped and then both guys throw lead hooks.

                    I really can't wait for this fight to be over because its gotten ridiculous. Lopez is a good talent but thats it. Hes got a punchers chance and that's not a bad chance to have. Nothing on films suggests he has a chance. If we wins kudos.

                    I mean. A dead clock is right twice a day and its boxing.
                    My bet is that Loma's matrix will frustrate him a lot to the point where Lopez will lose control of himself and either start swinging left and right or guards up and just take the punishment. Either way, I'm super excited about the fight!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post
                      Expect the opposite is true too. The less Adrian Broner wanna bes there are the better the sport will be.

                      Especially when all the talk comes from people who have barely done anything.
                      It’s sounds good to say but it’s simply not true in the eyes of the business. This is prize fighting. Hype and drama is what brings fans and viewers. It’s what causes these forums to have a pulse.

                      I’ll never look at a fighter like Lopez or Broner or even Ryan Garcia who hype themselves up and be mad. They get punched in the face for a living.

                      Dude go on BoxRec and look at the tens of thousands of fighters out there. What’s going to help you as a fighter get opportunities and chances?

                      What’s better for the sport is characters that draw attention and money. That then trickles down into the root of the sport.

                      Classius Clay was “hyped” before he stepped to Liston. Floyd was “not ready” when he stepped up to fight Hernandez. Boxing dies when casuals aren’t talking about boxing on the weekends. Period.

                      Also, Ill never call a boxer who hyped himself up overhyped. The only opinions that matter are what other FIGHTERS think of that particular fighter.
                      Last edited by Punch on Tap; 10-16-2020, 03:15 PM.

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