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    #51
    Originally posted by Mexican Bidness View Post
    Why did VADA waive Francisco Vargas whom had double of Canelo’s amount plus closer to the fight? The NSAC said they were advised that it was a “low amount.? When VADa is contracted, they do the testing for the commission. Cmon gramps! Don’t let us down
    I don't give a crap what VADA says. The NSAC suspended Canelo not VADA. Vargas could easily been on the tail end of a dosage when he got caught the same way Canelo got caught. When the story broke that Canelo failed the test I gave him the benefit of the doubt. However with his rise in weight and now complaining he can't make 160 coupled with his previous numerous fights at 155 it's getting obvious that he had chemical help all along. He got busted and censured for it.

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      #52
      Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
      Because Floyd wasn’t knocking anybody out and a SD or MD loss doesn’t hurt your value.
      Going in and getting beat up or knocked out does.
      Pretty obvious right?
      No other cash cow had this much trouble getting guys to fight him. Clearly they aren’t confident to get the victory. Canelo took fûcking 25% against cotto.

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        #53
        Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
        I don't give a crap what VADA says. The NSAC suspended Canelo not VADA. Vargas could easily been on the tail end of a dosage when he got caught the same way Canelo got caught. When the story broke that Canelo failed the test I gave him the benefit of the doubt. However with his rise in weight and now complaining he can't make 160 coupled with his previous numerous fights at 155 it's getting obvious that he had chemical help all along. He got busted and censured for it.
        He never said he couldn’t make 160. Just that it would be difficult after fighting at 175. History has shown us going back down to your regular weight class after jumping up two rarely, if ever, goes well.

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          #54
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
          I would be fine with..

          Charlo, Andrade, GGG, Derevyanchenko, Callum Smith, BJS, Plant, Benavidez, Bivol, Beterbiev, Zurdo Ramierez, Elieder Alvarez, Jean Pascal, Marcus Browne, Ryoto Murata, Rob Brant and Szeremeta

          ...

          but I would mock Canelo fans for many of those picks lol.
          That's a good list. If I had to choose, I think Andrade would be the first to jump on the opportunity with short notice. I thought to say Pascal but I don't know that he would be willing to drain all the way down to 168. I could be wrong though.

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            #55
            Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
            Canelo can make 160. He's the same size as Golovkin and younger. One more excuse to avoid a third fight that he is heavily favored to win.
            Canelo is 5'8",ggg is 5'11" slouched, ggg has always cried about jumping weight,but when Rolls came calling from the local ymca teen center boxing gym he trains at, suddenly ggg became too big for mw(ggg has gotten corona symptoms whenever he has to make 160 for yrs),how in the flyin fck do you justify standing up for gggs cowardis weightbully ways,he faced Deryev only because he met his criteria of naturally smaller than ggg with loss to Jacobs.

            You are crazy if you can't see Canelo is dwarfed by Ggg(as in anyone who didn't know either would say ggg was naturally much bigger regardless of Canelo bulking up to fight bigger men,hes the smaller fighter of the 2) and just because Canelo has the balls to fight 200lb kov at lhw,so what that he wants to fight a smw champ next rather than a mw?

            (what other fighter can even compare; just because they scared to jump weight to fight champs don't mean Canelo isn't the smaller guy daring to be great by choosing champs from multiple weights rather than cherrypicking smaller opponents at mw like ggg)
            Last edited by kushking; 07-27-2020, 04:13 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
              I don't give a crap what VADA says. The NSAC suspended Canelo not VADA. Vargas could easily been on the tail end of a dosage when he got caught the same way Canelo got caught. When the story broke that Canelo failed the test I gave him the benefit of the doubt. However with his rise in weight and now complaining he can't make 160 coupled with his previous numerous fights at 155 it's getting obvious that he had chemical help all along. He got busted and censured for it.
              You don’t care what VADA says? Ok. Lol. Stop with the 155. You know how big Haney is? You think he can’t already fight 140-147? Lara, Kirkland, Angulo all fought way above 155 many times before Canelo even did. You could say he copied them...

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                #57
                Originally posted by kushking View Post
                Canelo is 5'8",ggg is 5'11" slouched, ggg has always cried about jumping weight,but when Rolls came calling from the local ymca teen center boxing gym he trains at, suddenly ggg became too big for mw(ggg has gotten corona symptoms whenever he has to make 160 for yrs),how in the flyin fck do you justify standing up for gggs cowardis weightbully ways,he faced Deryev only because he met his criteria of naturally smaller than ggg with loss to Jacobs.

                You are crazy if you can't see Canelo is dwarfed by Ggg(as in anyone who didn't know either would say ggg was naturally much bigger regardless of Canelo bulking up to fight bigger men,hes the smaller fighter of the 2) and just because Canelo has the balls to fight 200lb kov at lhw,so what that he wants to fight a smw champ next rather than a mw?

                (what other fighter can even compare; just because they scared to jump weight to fight champs don't mean Canelo isn't the smaller guy daring to be great by choosing champs from multiple weights rather than cherrypicking smaller opponents at mw like ggg)
                Canelo is shorter but he has a blocky build. He is not small.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by mxtali View Post
                  He never said he couldn’t make 160. Just that it would be difficult after fighting at 175. History has shown us going back down to your regular weight class after jumping up two rarely, if ever, goes well.
                  Actually there are numerous fighters that moved down in weight and we're successful. Hopkins started as a LH. Joey Maxim. Jake LaMotta. I think Henry Armstrong. Bob Fitzsimmons. Those are well known boxers there were probably many more that didn't win a world title but had good carerers. Roy Jones wasn't successful but he may have been on steroids when he fought Ruiz.
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                    Canelo is shorter but he has a blocky build. He is not small.
                    But in boxing its a huge disadvantage to be built like canelo as opposed to ggg.(on paper if you were imagining the fighter with a better chance of winning youd pick the fighter with gggs size over one with Canelos frame to win 90% of the time due to reach advantage, natural strength advantage etc.(it takes more skill to win with Canelos build over gggs build because ggg on paper has the advantage of being taller & longer)

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by kushking View Post
                      But in boxing its a huge disadvantage to be built like canelo as opposed to ggg.(on paper if you were imagining the fighter with a better chance of winning youd pick the fighter with gggs size over one with Canelos frame to win 90% of the time due to reach advantage, natural strength advantage etc.(it takes more skill to win with Canelos build over gggs build because ggg on paper has the advantage of being taller & longer)
                      Canelo has the longer reach...

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